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Hey everybody. Hey. Welcome to Everything's in Arguments. This is a brand new show. We

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are going to be just talking about whatever we want. We will be discussing current events

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and how the generations particular... Wow. Yeah, I told you. I told you it wasn't long

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enough. That theme song is way too short. We're going to have to lengthen that. Exactly.

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You're like, it's way too long. We're going to be talking about the generation gap. I

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am a cusper between Gen X and Gen Y. I consider myself like mentally Gen X, but I was born

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in 82, so that kind of puts me on the cusp there. Oh, I'm David. Oh, yes. I'm Leila.

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I am his daughter. And how old are you? I'm 14. I'm almost 15. Right. And you are on

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the cusp of Gen Z and Gen Alpha. Right. According to some charts, most charts say that I'm Gen

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Z, but I do kind of consider myself across between them. Right. And we're just going

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to be talking about the differences of when I was growing up and when she's growing up,

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and back in my day. Yeah. But we're going to be discussing current events, our opinions

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on those current events. And some not so current events. Yeah. We're going to be talking about

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old stuff, stuff that happened a long time ago. We're going to be talking about stuff

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that is going to happen in the future. Definitely 100%. Totally. But yeah, we hope you'll enjoy

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the ride. We have already got some guests in the works to talk to about a couple of

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topics we've already gotten laid out and we're researching. So everything's in arguments. The

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argument can mean me and her are going to argue about topics. Or it can mean just an argument like

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in a essay. Right. This is an argument for this. This is an argument against this. And also

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generations between generations, there's always arguments about everything. And also, it doesn't

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need to fit the title. Exactly. This is our podcast, not yours. We can do whatever we want with it.

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Yeah. And argue with us about it. Exactly. I have had arguments about your podcast title should reflect

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the content of the podcast. It's like, yeah, okay, sure. All right, buddy. You start paying me to do

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my podcast and I'll name it whatever you want. And we've been fit into the Fun Fact Friday mold

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for like four years now. Yeah. Yeah. We are leaving the same thing every single episode.

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Our old show was Fun Fact Friday with Leila and David. If you're just coming across this show

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without being a previous listener. And that was a fun little kid show. Kid family friendly. This

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one might not be so much. We're not going to be intentionally vulgar or anything, but we're also

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not going to hold back. Yeah. But if you're coming from Fun Fact Friday, welcome. If you're not and

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you want to go check that out, well, we had a lot of fun with that show and it is definitely

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family friendly. You're looking for something like that. The episodes will stay up for as long as

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we have the server. That's fun fact Friday.com. But yeah, you can get to our show on all of the

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modern podcasts. We'll go into that when we talk about our value for value because we are,

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that's how we're funded. But yeah, let's, let's get into the, we first wanted to talk about

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generations in general. The episode name is Generation Gap. In general generations,

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general relations. General relations. I got there. I got there.

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And we kind of wanted to go through the generations that are still kind of around. I know that there's,

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there are generations, there's some really, really old people out there. We get that. But

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Past boom. We're going boomers to alpha right now. Right. Not like silent, like everything past that.

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We have no business talking about like hundred year olds. Right. There's none that we could,

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I mean, there are some, but I don't know how we get ahold of them to interview them. I don't know

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how, you know, so we are going to have it boomers on. We're going to have Gen X on Gen Y, Gen Alpha.

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Yes, of course. Everything. We're going to run the gambit. We want this show to be more

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talking about our opinions on stuff. And well, like, just, we have a thing that we're going to do.

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I don't know if we want to do. We want to say right now. Sure. Okay. We have a series that we're

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going to do on the show named Who Do You Trust? Right. And we're going to get philosophical.

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And if you've ever wanted us to pick each other's brains about things,

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if you're coming from Fun Fact Friday, yeah. We know that we've got some fans. We love y'all. And

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they, we've had them asking us to do a more candid show, a less produced, less, you know,

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a little more stream of consciousness. That's kind of what this is. This is kind of a stream

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of consciousness. We have some notes. This is going to be more actual research time put into

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the show. Cause on Fun Fact Friday, we would just find a website and read off of it and talk about

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it. But we had a good time. Well, we had a really good time. This is more off of our, off of our dome,

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but also things we're interested in. And we, yes.

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We have, we, I built a,

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okay. You gotta turn that up. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. And you can do this with it. Hold on. Oh my gosh.

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I was playing with this before the show.

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Thank you. Tim Allen. He's actually in the studio with this.

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And he learned to modulate his voice like that. It's amazing. We should get Tim Allen on the show.

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I'll see, I'll see what I can do. Yeah. So I wanted to go through our first episode here.

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I wanted to go through and talk about the generations boomer down to alpha

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and get our opinions on how we see them just in our brain before we start talking about them,

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before we start talking to them, just kind of our, our knee jerk reaction when somebody,

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you know, is a certain age, what we assume about them, which we both know we shouldn't do.

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Yes, of course. But we all have, both of us have boomers, gen, gen X, millennials,

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gen Z and generation alpha in our lives and we communicate with them. So like,

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we know that not all of this specific demographic is going to be like our assumptions. Exactly.

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Exactly. So let's go. Let's start with the old folks. Yes. Baby boomers, baby boomers are 1940,

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born 1946 to 1964. I like to give like a four or five year buffer on either the beginning and

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the end of that because people, I grew up a little older doing things, hanging out with people older

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than me, doing things that were really above my age, quote unquote limit, which is kind of

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why I consider myself more of a Gen Z than alpha. Right. Because I don't really hang out with people

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younger than me all that much at all. Yeah. And you do hang out with a lot of folks older than you

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and whatnot. So, okay. So boomers, 46 to 64. How do you feel when you, when you see a boomer,

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obviously not the people in your life because you know them and love them or whatever. So

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when you just see a person who's like older, like your grandparents age, what are you,

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what are you thinking about boomers? Oh, crap. I think in like the back in my day mentality

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of like, Oh, we did this back, back when I was, when I was young and it worked,

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it worked decently. So why don't people just do that now? When obviously there's more ways to do

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it and there's more innovation now that can make it so much easier or so much better. So so many

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people, Oh, back in my day it worked. So we should do that. That's kind of what I sketched down for

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myself. I put down, they're setting their ways a lot of times they have their way of doing it.

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And it's kind of the, we've always done it this way mentality. Yeah. And there's almost a resistance

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to learning new things. Yeah. Yeah. We agree on this. The no real intent on learning new ways.

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Right. And that's what I wrote down. I've been, I've worked with a lot. I went to college with

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some boomers because at the community college there, they're there, they're wanting to learn

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a new skill or whatever. Yeah. And we would be in the computer classes and trying to teach them

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something was like, it was like pulling teeth. Yeah. I was going to write down that they like

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are not internet literate and I don't intend on it to like, they don't want to be because they

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are like, Oh, the internet. Yeah. Right. Who cares about the internet back in my day. Right.

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My day, we didn't have the internet worked. And to talk to people, to their credit,

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most of the boomers that I know, and I mean, obviously they're a lot older now,

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so it's less of a thing, but like 20, 30 years ago, even if they were starting to get a little older,

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they still had no problem rolling up their sleeves and doing some hard work. Yeah. There was,

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there was a, the doing the work is the reward mentality. Um, you know, a good, a good hard

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day's work is its own reward sort of thing. And I get that. I see that because I'll go out and I'll

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work in the yard and get, get some good exercise and sun. And you feel when you do something real

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in the real world, like you go out and chop some wood or you fix your brakes or like things that

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actually affect the real world, not just this digital stuff like you and me are doing right now.

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Digital style.

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Digital style. Um,

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it does give you a, um, a sense of satisfaction. Yeah.

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A good, oh wow. I really worked hard today. I did a good job. My blood's pumping. I was sweating

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real hard. Um, does give you a sense of satisfaction, especially if you build something.

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Like when I finished the back porch, I recently added a roof and screen to our back porch. So

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it's a screened in porch now. And I'll tell you that, that the sense of accomplishment I had from

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that. And it wasn't that big of a deal. It was met what? 10, two by fours and some, some paint and

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so a little bit of plywood and some roofing. And I did, you know, did it all myself, a little bit

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of help from friends and family, but, um, that yeah, I really felt really accomplished with that.

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And it's great. We can go outside on the back porch. It's nice. It's really nice. A lot less

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bugs. I know. Right. But yeah, that's, that's kind of how I feel about boomers as well. So they,

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they just had this, the way we, the way we've always done it mentality and they, they don't

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like change because things works, you know, it works, works well for us. Why are we going to

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change it? Even if it could work better, even if it could work better, but they don't, they're

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like, well, it worked. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. That's what I was going to write. If it

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ain't broke, don't you know how many times I heard, I heard that growing up all the time. Um,

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so yeah, that, that, okay. So let's, let's move it, move it down. Let's move it down.

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Gen X. Oh, what do you think? Gen X is 1965 to 1980. And again, five year buffer. I consider myself

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gen X. I feel like generate generation X is the single best generation that's ever, no, I'm just

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kidding. I wrote in my section, they think they're the best thing to exist.

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Just compared to, you know, three or four generations up or down. That's all. Um,

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no, there, there is a strong, I'll do it my way mentality. Um, we, we were raised by the boomers.

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Right. The boomers were off working or, you know, whatever. And they, they kind of had like a,

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you know, go out and play thing. So we went out and played and we would get into trouble,

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but then we would have to figure out ways to not get, or, you know, not get each other hurt or

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I can't, I, we, there really wasn't a lot of supervision when I was growing up. Oh,

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not a lot at all. I knew friends who would get off, get off the school bus and their parents

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wouldn't get home for four or five hours. Yeah. Uh, latchkey kids. Yeah. I wrote in my section,

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they supposedly don't care, but it allowed us internet, allowed us on the internet about not

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caring because I've on the internet, I have never seen a generation care more about what other

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generations think about them than a Gen X. They're always like, okay. Oh, Gen Z y'all hate us. We

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don't care. But they say that like every, every day. Here's the thing you're, you're going off of

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what you saw on the internet. Yes, of course. So that is, it's, it's an extremely non Gen X

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thing to do. It's get on the internet and tell us about how much you don't care and how big and bad

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Gen X was and all this stuff. Um, so a super Gen X thing to do that I've seen is talk about Gen X

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and talk about generations. Okay. Generations are such a social thing.

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Well, yeah, that's, that's what defines the generations, unless you're just strictly talking

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about age, but when you're talking about, and you have to give them names and attributes.

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Um, yeah, I've seen quite a few of the, oh, we were Gen X. We drank out of the water hose.

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Hahaha. So I wrote, okay. Here's what, here's verbatim what I wrote in the Gen X section.

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Supposedly don't care, but it allowed us on the internet about not caring. Hose water, dirt, M&M,

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they think the best thing ever to exist. Now, these are influencers. Yes. The vast majority

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of people I know from Generation X mind their own business. That's that is the, the overwhelming.

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And even when I was in like high school, like the, you know how there's always groups in high

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school, you've got your, your jocks and your geeks and you're all your stereotypical, right?

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In Gen X, everybody kind of just did their own thing. Like when I was in high school,

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ever, there were the groups, don't get me wrong, but there wasn't a lot of like,

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oh, the jocks feel like they have to pick on the nerds. No, they just did their own thing.

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all kind of had the, I grew up on a military base. So all of the groups were like, oh,

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military base. So all of the kids that I knew that went to my school were all military kids.

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So we all lived on base. And you all had something, something in common. Right. And we also had the,

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the threat of, we don't know when we're moving. Sorry. I haven't been on mic in a while. I'm

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not used to this. Yeah, it's been a month and a half, two months. So we, we, growing up on the

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base, so we're always seeing each other. We all lived in the same, and we all have always had

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this threat of we don't know when we're going to get shipped out. Because the military says,

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my dad has to, we have to move to Alaska. We have to move to Alaska. There's no arguing.

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So at any given time, your best friend may just leave. So like, you didn't want to get too grouped

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into one particular group of friends, because they all may have moved next month, next month,

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when there's a big, you know, they, they were shifting people around the military. So I,

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the way I saw things may be different than the way the greater world saw things

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at the end of Generation X there. Yeah. But from the folks that I know that are 10,

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15 years older than me, and like solidly in Gen X, it's very much a, you do your thing,

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I'll do mine. I don't, I don't care what you're doing. As long as you're happy and you ain't

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hurting me. But the not having parents to help you do things, having to rely on your friends to

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get through stuff. I feel like that it, the main part of the generation is who raised them.

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Yes. And how they were raised. And Gen X kind of raised itself. And MTV raised it and TV. And you

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know, which is we're going to have a whole series on the media, but, yeah. So that's

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took a little longer on Gen X because I am Gen X and we'll, we'll jump into the

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eccentricities and intricacies of everything. Well, this is, I'm most curious about your

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opinion on anything about millennials, the generation between me and you. Okay.

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I have a lot of notes on this one. What do you have about it?

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So the experience I had with millennials is mostly in a work setting because having been a boss,

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I've been a management in a lot of places. I've been, you know, higher up in companies. So I dealt

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with hiring and firing. I dealt with, uh, disciplining things like that. And I feel like millennials

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have a, um, had an entitlement and they feel like they want things. And I'm going to go,

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I want to do a whole episode about fairness, but they have a fairness, like everything needs to be

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fair. But the problem is, is that it's a fairness of outcome, not a fairness of starting point.

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Does that make sense? Yeah. Um, so when, when I was dealing with millennials in the workplace,

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um, and another thing about millennials is they have the ones that I've dealt with, obviously.

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And from what I see online, they have trouble looking past, looking one step deeper into things.

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Yeah. And that's kind of what I wrote about Gen Z, but I guess millennials also have

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that kind of mentality. Yeah. They don't research stuff. They just take it to face value and run

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with it. Right. And they'll take, and this bleeds into Gen Z, which I'll talk about, but they

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don't question authority as much as they should. Yeah. Um, it was hammered into Gen Z or Gen X

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to a question authority, you know, I mean, yeah. So we were, we were coming up 1984, you know,

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and then you look at 1984 and so anywho, um, the, the, the media got more free and people started.

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Oh, another thing I wrote about Gen X looping back. Um, I forgot to talk about this and I

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do want to talk about this. Gen X straddled the digital divide. Like we use the card catalog in

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the library and we also used the computer in the library to look stuff up. We saw the beginning of

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the internet becoming a big thing and we've moved all the way into it being what it is now. So we

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grew up as computers grew up. We are young enough to know how computers work and old enough not to

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trust them. So, um, we've seen how badly computer mess ups can mess things up. We've seen all that.

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And we just don't trust them quite as much as maybe your generation does. And we'll go into

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that later. But back to millennials that they trust authority a little too much for my taste.

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They feel a little too entitled, but not in the right way. Um, if you work hard and you do the

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things you're supposed to do and sometimes, and I feel like millennials and maybe even Gen Z have

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this, um, sometimes you have to eat crap, you know, you got to eat a little bit of crap for a little

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while, but then you showing your boss, you're willing to do that every once in a while. Like

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don't let them walk on you. Don't let them step all over you. But every once in a while, you know,

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and if the company does good, you do good typically. And if you don't, if that's not the situation,

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you need to find, you get a better contract with your company that you're working for

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and say, listen, you know, we got to figure out some kind of profit sharing or something,

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you know? Um, and they millennials, I feel like that I've dealt with always feel like

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they should be able to either a pass the buck and like not like they don't want to do something

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because it might get them in trouble. So they'll try and pass that job onto somebody else, not

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because they're afraid of doing the work, but because they're afraid of doing it wrong

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and getting in trouble or losing their job or something. Um, so they'll try and pass the

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buck so they can pass the blame. You're coming at this at of more work. Yeah. Sorry. I'm coming at

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this more of a social standpoint. Well, I'm just going from my personal experience. Yeah. And

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that's pretty much the only way that I've experienced millennials is in the workplace. Yeah. And as

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being the, you know, above them, not, not actually above them, but you know, my position in the

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company was above theirs. I don't think I'm above anybody. Um, yeah. Okay. So you talk about, you

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talk about my notes for millennials is the first, first thing I had that came to my mind about

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millennials is Disney. Of course. My mic down to get a drink. Yes. But Disney adults is like the

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main thing you hear about millennials on, on the internet from what I've heard. And also like all of

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the, they, oh my gosh, I can't speak. They grew up around the usage of social media becoming what it

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is today. Like MySpace, Facebook, all that stuff was coming, coming up and they were at the forefront

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of it. They shaped the styles of that time, but they also look back on it now and we're like,

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Oh, that was cringe. That was so cringe, but it was just like the culture of the moment.

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Uh, I also wrote Taylor Swift. Everybody looks back at when they were teenagers and kids and

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they're like, Oh my gosh. Cause I look at the eighties, the late eighties, early nineties.

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And I'm like, Oh my gosh, what were we wearing? Yeah, it was, it was cool then, you know,

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fanny packs and, uh, and like sunglasses with pink, hot pink rim, you know, rims on them. And oh my

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gosh. Good. Didn't you? But, uh, you keep turning your mic down. Uh, Taylor Swift is another thing

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that I wrote. Uh, millennials seem to have a very big attachment to like Taylor Swift in her music.

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And I'm like, okay, that's, that's all right. You can, you can stop. You can stop now.

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Well, every, every generation has its pop culture. Yes, of course. Um, Gen X, like I said, MTV

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action movies. Um, cause I mean, the eighties was full of action movies and corny movies and,

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and all that. Um, the late nineties, early two thousands was Disney. I mean, Disney, Pixar.

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Now Disney owns pretty much entertainment. Um, the biggest, all the biggest stuff is Disney.

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What's star Wars, Marvel, um, Disney itself, Pixar, that whole, that whole cadre of stuff

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is just, um, yeah, that's a, they own pop culture. Yeah. But I see a lot of millennials

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having like season passes to Disney getting married to Disney or getting engaged to it.

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Disney, you know, going there like every, every weekend with their kids or not with their kids,

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just with their partner, like just on one hand enjoy things. I like seeing people in like

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being happy with their life, but also like it's a corporation. You're just giving your money to a

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corporation and like, why? So, okay. Do you think, do you think that it's obviously every,

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everything comes down to who raised them. Um, do you feel like they're, they weren't pushed

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to see the reality of the world and maybe they were coddled a little too much. I do think that

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and they don't grow up. Um, not that you can't watch Disney stuff and love it as a grownup,

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quote unquote healing their inner child. Right. Constantly. Constantly. And like every other

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like weekend, right. Going to Disney, drinking all the drinks, going to every park. And I feel

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like that might be, so the boomers when they were raising, when they were raising their kids,

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I feel like they were, it was kind of a, um, you know, uh, all right, you're 14, go get a job,

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you know, and Gen X was like, Oh man, that sucked. Right. And cause the not having parents around

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all that. And they were like, you know what, when we have kids, we're going to have a millennial

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kids and we're going to be nicer to them and we're going to, we're going to hug them more.

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And it's good. That's a good thing. But at some point you also have to teach them, Hey, you know

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what? The real world sucks. It's like, you need to, you need to toughen up a little bit. Um, so it

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was kind of like an overcorrection maybe. Yeah. I also think that Gen Z or Gen X

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doing that to the millennials also led into the Gen Alpha kids.

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Right. And we'll get there. Well, we'll get there, but I have a lot to say on the Gen Alpha

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and millennial like stuff. Okay. Okay. Gen Z. Let's get into Gen Z. Do you feel like we've

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covered millennials enough? Yeah. All right. And we are talking in generalities. And if you

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want to argue with us about any of this stuff, we are down. Let us know. Mail at argument,

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pod.com. We're talking in generation. Yeah. We're talking generational alleys.

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Generational alleys. Okay. So where are we at? Where are we at? Gen Z. Gen Z.

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I got, I got, maybe they just didn't like Gen Y. Why, why'd they go millennials instead of just

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Gen Y? I don't even know. Maybe because of the, the millennia, the turn of the century, they're

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like, Oh, Oh, we got to talk about that movie. Why two K. Anyway, Gen Z. So I've got, let me see

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what I wrote here. Um, Gen Z I've got sensitive to a fault. Um, they're scared to rock the boat,

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which can lead to becoming pushovers. Uh, they rarely question authority.

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They have a strong social justice mentality. Uh, but they're also, uh, to their credit,

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there is a string of rebellion. The edgy is going to be strong with them as they grow, as they grow

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older. I also think all of that is a result of being born to Gen X and millennials. Um,

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I guess it wouldn't be drawn to millenia. It depends on age of the millennials. Cause yeah,

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anyway, generational. So yeah, I've got sensitive to a fault because the kids a little bit older

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than you, I've, I've dealt with them a little bit and they are, they're, they're sensitive.

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They're very sensitive about like, Oh, you can't, you know, Oh, um, your, your generation definitely

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doesn't rock the vote. Rock the vote, rock the boat, rock the boat. Um, and when you don't rock

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the boat, you can become a pushover and it's being sensitive. Also, if I know that somebody

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sensitive, you could, I mean, I know I could manipulate them. We were also told to like,

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respect our elders and like, don't question your elders and like, do what they say, which also led

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to us being like that. Is that what I taught you? No, but your people, yes. And I have been told by

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elders and older people, like, especially in school, like when I was younger, uh-huh,

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always respect your elders, always listen to what they say, do what they say, you know,

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right. And we were taught that as we were told to respect our elders, but we are also told,

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and this is just me personally, that, yeah. And that's a respectful thing. That is very respectful.

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I, I feel kind of bad because I've never done that with y'all, but well, we, we, we have a very

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different fan, our family, we do things our way and, um, but we, we also, when we are sending you

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to spend the night at a friend's house or go to a friend's house, we tell you, say, sir and ma'am,

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being, you know, be better than you are at home, basically. Yeah. Um, I can pretend like I'm nice.

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I love you. I can pretend like you're respectful. No, being respectful towards your elders. I feel

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like that's good. Right. But we were also taught, don't, don't trust them. Like don't trust

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everything they say, because they may be a weirdo, you know, they may try and get you to get in their

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van. But I've like been on call with my friends before and I, y'all ask me something and I'm like,

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huh? And they're like, why don't you just say like, sir, I don't really know. I've never really

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done that. Well, if you did that to it, if you did that to somebody like, like your granddad,

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you're, we've taught you to be a little more respectful because his generation, that's a

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big thing. Yes, sir. Right. And which I respect y'all too. I just do it in a different way. And

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a lot of parents, like, um, like if your friend's parents, if you went over there and you were like,

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you know, yes ma'am, I know you have to worry about that. Then like the rules are different

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for every everybody now. But I always go the most respectful way. And then if they say,

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oh, it's fine. I'll wait. Right. I always knock it down. I respect my elders until they give me

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a reason not to. And then they just become a person. I'm going to treat them badly. Like

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I treat everybody. I wrote for Gen Z, okay, glued to their phones, pop culture. I just wrote pop

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culture because it's so like, this blank situation is crazy. Like we all, we care, we care too much

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about everything. Oh, stick a pin in that. I'm going to come back to that. Yes. We idolize

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celebrities, judge everyone for everything impacted by COVID in their school years. That's what I,

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that's the other thing I wanted to say. That's a big one. Yeah. That was a very big one. They,

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and I was also one of these, but it was more in my elementary years and middle school,

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which did affect a lot, but the older Gen Z that got affected like in high school,

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early high school or late high school. Graduation. Yeah. That really affects someone's life,

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you know, not having a normal high school experience really does affect a generation,

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but they never really take, whoa, never really take the time to research something.

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Which is also what I said for millennials. Yeah, totally. But that's what I wrote about Gen Z.

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I think COVID has a lot to do with the way that their generation acts. Their generation,

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I say like I'm not a Gen Z. Yeah. So the, not taking the time to research something that I was

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going to put something like that for the millennials part also. It's the one level deep research.

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Cause they will, even if somebody does go to research something, they will just Google it

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or ask AI. Like spot content on the internet. Oh my gosh, I can't hear it.

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And they'll just take whatever the first answer is and be like, Oh, that's the truth. Exactly.

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Like, Oh my gosh. And while it may be truth, it's not the whole truth. What?

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No, I just closed out two of my chats by accident. Oh no. All right, we're good.

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There's a button for that. Yeah, I did. I re-opened them. So the moist critical.

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So we talked about how, how much content he produces and how like Gen Z will take that.

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though. They'll just take it at surface level. Yeah. They take it at surface level.

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They watch a video about this one person being terrible and like, Oh, in their mind,

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that person is terrible because they didn't research it themselves.

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and they're like dubious about it. So the claim is a six million people were at,

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at in Spain on this day, right? Just, I'm just making up whatever.

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Six million people were in Spain on this day. Somebody says that. And then

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they don't like the person that said it, for example. So they won't believe it.

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So let's say Trump, right? Cause a lot of people don't like Trump.

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Well, yeah, this will come into the hoodie trust. Trump says, Oh, there was, there was

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200,000 people at my inauguration. It was the biggest inauguration ever.

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It was amazing. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. And then somebody's like, he lied.

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And people like, Oh wow. He lied. I can't believe he lied. He lied. Well, there was 198,500 people.

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So he rounded it up to 200,000. Right. And I'm just using Trump. These numbers are not right.

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I'm just making stuff, something up to give an example. Most of the media likes to

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dog on politicians and stuff like that. Right. But what will happen is somebody will see the

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headline Trump lies. Yeah. And they won't go look at what the lie is. And even if they don't do go

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look at the, what the lie is, they don't actually go look at the source material, right? They look

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at Snopes or some debunking site that it says false at the top of the screen. But if you actually

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read down, it's only false because it was a slight exaggeration or something that if you were having

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a conversation with a real human, it wouldn't matter. And even in the context, it doesn't even

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matter. You know, like this costs us $8 billion when it was 8.01. You know? Yeah. So the, I'm

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going, it's just the reason. Ooh, good one. Bless you. Hope you heard that. Yeah, I'm sure it came

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to him on the mic. Yeah. The, um, it's just the not going to the source of the information to look

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things up. People will take what a bill says. Right. Information. Like a bill that's got hearsay.

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Yeah. They will take what, um, what a bill says. They'll take the name, the cute little name that

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they give to bills and they'll take that as what it, what the bill actually is. And they won't

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actually go read the bill that's going to become a law when the media is the one that just, and that

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comes to who you, who you can trust. This, this review trust series is going to be great. We

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should have named the whole podcast. Who do you trust? I really, I really like that name.

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So we're going to do a whole series about it, but it will run out of, uh, run out of steam.

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So yeah. Okay. So yeah. Gen Z Gen Z I've got, I think we've, we've kind of covered Gen Z.

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They, and we'll go back over it if we forgot something, but yeah, I do see Gen Z putting out

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some content that's it's, Oh, this is what I said. Put a pin in. They put out stuff, but with the pop

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culture and like you were talking about the different YouTubers and stuff, they won't censor

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themselves because something is bad to talk about. And somebody might hear it. That's sensitive to it.

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Or they don't censor themselves for those reasons. They censor themselves to appease the algorithm.

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I hate it. I hate it so much. I hate it so much. Listen, these kids, these kids,

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all over my lawn and they won't say the word murder. They won't say the word kill literally.

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Just, Oh my gosh. They won't say those. They say little cute little phrases that mean murder,

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like unalive. Yeah. They won't say gun. They'll say pew pew. Exactly. They are talking about like

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a true crime case. Just, just say they were murdered. Say they were killed. It's like,

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Oh my God, the algo won't promote their video. Lila.

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They won't promote the video. Oh wow. Okay. So we're gonna, I'm so mad about it. We'll talk

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about promoting, promoting the algorithm in our value for value segment. Um, so why don't you go

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ahead and start talking about Jen alpha. I need to look something up in my email. Okay. So Jen alpha,

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they are the kids of millennials and few Gen Z. Hold on. I think I'm a little, okay. There we go.

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They were raised with the internet or by the internet pretty much. Uh, but they're also like

367
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always doggone for being dumb, independent on the internet. They were raised by it. They didn't have

368
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a choice. They millennials. Into the mic. I'm aware. You keep looking at me. I know. They can still

369
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meet me. He's fine. Uh, millennials are kind of at fault for that or that they're parents,

370
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Jen alpha's parents. Right. So late, later, older Gen X and younger. What I'm saying is generation

371
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alpha is not responsible for themselves right now. Like they shouldn't be at fault for how they're

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acting or being on the internet at such a young age. That should be on the parents. Like I have,

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um, a friend that didn't get a phone until this year and she's my age. So that's honestly,

374
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I kind of agree with that. Right. You know, like you don't need the internet. It is not a

375
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you need thing. I get having to call someone or something like that, but there's every single

376
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person around you has a phone. Yep. You can ask someone, Hey, can I use your phone? I need to call

377
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my mom real quick. That's a, that's a tip. John C. DeBorac always gives. Yeah. Everybody else has

378
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a phone. Oh no, he has a smartphone and he leaves it in his drawer though. And he doesn't take it out

379
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with him and he goes out. Yeah. Which so he has a hold on. Right. But he does have it. He keeps in

380
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a drawer. Yeah. But I'm saying like, uh, I've watched so many videos about, cause I am a victim

381
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to the stupid commentary YouTube, but, um, like Jen alpha is so dumb. They don't know how to read.

382
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They're, I'm, I'm a school teacher and I don't, all of my students don't know how to read. They're

383
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on a seventh grade reading level and they're in 12th grade, you know, like just,

384
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that's the school's fault. Exactly. That's the school's fault. No, honestly,

385
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it's the parents fault because a parent shouldn't be trusting the school. Exactly.

386
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Um, parents should be teaching their children how to read and not just

387
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watch a YouTube video all day. And I also wanted to talk about, um, the Sephora kids.

388
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Exactly. So I, I, I thought that you wouldn't know what this is. So I have like a whole, uh,

389
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thing prepared about, I have so many opinions on Jen alpha and how they were raised and like how

390
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they're presented on the internet. I do not think that anyone under the age of like 15 should be on

391
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the internet or have social media in general. I am 14 almost 15. How much social media do you have?

392
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Like zero. You do have a master on account, but you haven't been ever logged into it.

393
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I have messages and I have Pinterest. That's all I have. And I'm okay with that.

394
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And that's messages is text messages, not, not, not some like Facebook. Right. I

395
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genuinely don't even like think that kids should be on the internet. I understand if you are

396
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that's on your parents, that's your decision. That's your, that's your parents' decision,

397
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but also like, you know, get off my lawn, my lawn being the internet. Exactly. No, it's bad.

398
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And that's, you can't trust the media and the internet is media now. Yes. CNN, Fox news,

399
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even though Fox news does a lot more than CNN numbers wise, that's going to fall off as the

400
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older people fall off. Your condition, their numbers are not to accept other people's opinions

401
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as your own, which is another episode that I want to go over. Yeah. I have that in the topic section,

402
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but you don't have original thoughts anymore because of social media. You read stuff on social

403
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media. You speak in memes. Yeah. And it goes into your brain and you subconsciously like think about

404
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it all the time when you're like, Oh my gosh, a meme just popped into my head. So like, you know,

405
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exactly. You never have an original thought. You always think about stuff that you've seen on the

406
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internet or that you've like seen people talk about, you know? And that, again, that falls on

407
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the parents. We've, we've tried really hard and you know, Tutankham and Horan here. Um,

408
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we've tried really hard to teach you to think for yourself. We've even told you, listen, if, if you

409
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don't agree with something we say, let's argue about it. Yeah, absolutely. And that's why I want

410
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to, yeah. I want to have the discussions with you about you think it's this way, but I've

411
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tried really hard to say, okay, now think one level deeper. Yeah. And on the show, we're always

412
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going to say our opinions and then argue about it. Yeah. And we would love feedback from the audience.

413
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We're not trying to do it for algo. Cause we don't have an algo. We'll talk about that.

414
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,040
And you've always taught me to like, look at both sides of an argument. So like you've always taught

415
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me to look at both news outlets, like Fox news and CNN, if there's like something happening.

416
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:26,960
Exactly. And another thing your mother and I both try and do really hard is when you ask us about a

417
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politically charged issue. Let's say we try really hard. I'm going at this from this side. Exactly.

418
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When you, when you were asking what you learned at school, a little bit about communism and

419
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:48,000
capitalism, right? And I came at, I tried to explain them in extremely fair terms for each one.

420
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:56,080
Right. And then we talked about which one you feel like is a better system. And why I tried

421
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really hard not to sway your opinion one way or the other. So, and you do that on most issues.

422
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We try, we try really hard. We want you to, we want to teach you through having you figure it

423
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out yourself. I feel like it's the best way to do it. So, uh, alpha, I don't, I don't know.

424
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You've, you have met a couple generations now, but we have some in our family. We do, but I see them,

425
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,960
you know, Christmas, birthdays and it's like, Hey, let's eat some cake here. Open this present. Oh,

426
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there you go. Fun. And you know, I love them, but I don't like know about their philosophy.

427
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For a kids. So, oh yeah. What's a, what's a Sephora kid?

428
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,080
So Sephora, you've been to Sephora before.

429
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,760
Yeah. I know what, I know what it's Sephora. I've been into Sephora. Yeah. It's a makeup store.

430
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:45,840
It's so fun, but, uh, it's this makeup store and there's also like, uh, skincare, stuff like that.

431
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:52,320
It's just basic makeup store, but millennials and Gen Z that are raising gen alpha have like,

432
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shown gen alpha the Sephora and like, have brought them in and they've made like,

433
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,600
messes and the tester are areas, which is completely on parents. They should be watching their kids,

434
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but also on the kids being taught to not respect other people's stuff.

435
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Right. And that's on the parents. That's completely on the parents. But, um,

436
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:21,600
also like using your kids on the internet. Oh my gosh. Like putting your kids at the forefront of

437
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,520
a video being like, where's Sephora kids? Of course we're gonna have like, we're Costco guys.

438
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We just talked about the Costco guys. Double junk chocolate cookie.

439
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,200
We need to talk about the Costco guys for one episode. We can talk about that in our, um,

440
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our other section. Well, like, okay. So somebody might, um, and actually what I almost just did

441
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there. Um, I wanted to talk about in a later episode, one of the things I don't, I don't like

442
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on the internet is when content creators preemptively like, Oh, I can, I can already

443
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,160
hear you in the comments talking about what I'm about to say. Oh, and, um, like they changed

444
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:03,520
their content based on what the contents are going to comments are going to be. Um, I'll edit that

445
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out later. We, we, um, we, I understand what Leila is saying right now. You could say that

446
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about fun fact Friday. We never expected anybody to listen to fun fact Friday. We really didn't.

447
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Um, and honestly, even in the height of our quote unquote popularity, we have like 200 listeners.

448
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:29,760
And if, if it ever, anything ever got the slightest bit weird, we're done. And Leila, Leila was at the

449
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forefront of that. She was in charge of when we stopped that show or started that show. I'm not

450
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using her to get famous. I don't want to get famous being famous and be terrible. But, uh,

451
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:43,120
what I'm saying is like, there's one, I wish I could remember their, uh, account name,

452
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,640
but there's this one account on tech talk and she, her kids like talk about all the stuff that

453
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they got from Sephora, like their hall, quote unquote. But like, just feel like it's a stolen

454
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childhood. Like go outside, play a video game, you know, like you don't need to worry about your

455
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face aging at age four. You don't need to put 15 chemicals in your face. So you don't get one

456
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:15,360
wrinkle by 15 going uphill. Like, you know, you're still going uphill. You need to not mess with it.

457
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:21,360
Another thing is just like aging culture in not Asian culture, aging culture in general,

458
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you don't need to anti age. You're good, man. Aging is a natural thing. And it's the thing

459
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:34,880
that happens. It's awesome. It's aging is the best. Never, never going to not age. Never stop aging.

460
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:40,560
Never going to not age. Exactly. Oh my gosh. But anyways, okay. So it's just stolen childhood.

461
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Like I said, alpha, I don't interact with them. A lot of alpha kids. Um, I don't interact.

462
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,800
Why are they called alphas? It just, it is, we ran out of letters. So we had to go to the Greek

463
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:56,080
alphabet. I don't know. Um, it's going to be generation sigma. All right. So we're going to

464
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move on to our value for value segments. Uh, and then we're going to do some current events and

465
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we're going to wrap this thing up. So, um, value for value is the way that we monetize this podcast.

466
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And this podcast is for us to put our thoughts out there and have a good time. And, um, maybe,

467
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:20,400
you know, spark some conversation and we love conversation and we put the show out for free.

468
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We're not going to ever charge you for an episode. It's not how we, we do things. We put the show out

469
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there for free. If you like the show and it's valuable to you, if like you see it in the podcast

470
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for, Oh wow. Oh, new episode. Cool. That means it has value to you. Um, if you listen to the whole

471
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thing, it obviously is valuable enough for you to listen to and spend your time on. So, um, if you

472
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feel like you want to return some value to us, you can get in touch with us, uh, send us a letter.

473
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That'd be a way you can return value. You can also return value with, uh, money or art or music

474
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topics. Come on the show, talk to us about something. Um, however you want to return the

475
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value. If you do decide to return to value monetarily, we'll mention you on the show. And

476
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if you want to leave us a note or something, or if you want to leave us a note and say,

477
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don't read those on the show, we'll do that also a hundred percent. And we actually already have

478
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some support even on episode one, uh, coming over from fun fact Friday. Uh, we have some monthly

479
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sustaining donors that were from fun fact Friday. If, if we, um, if you don't want to support this

480
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show, we totally understand because you were supporting fun fact Friday. Uh, those are still

481
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running if you want to cancel those and we'll refund anything, uh, that you didn't intend for

482
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us to get for this show. But we have 1912 from DREBS Scott, one of our producers from fun fact

483
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Friday, our largest, um, monetary producer. And 1912 is the Oreo donation. This year Oreos were

484
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invented. Um, and then we have Steven Grimes, $10, our longest sustaining donor. And then we,

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have, um, our first actual producer that wasn't an auto payment from the previous show, um,

486
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was our first producer for fun fact Friday. Yeah. Sherry Laurie sent us $9 and 12 cents USD.

487
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And, uh, Sherry says, uh, can't wait for everything's an argument. Love you guys.

488
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Sherry hope I'm the first producer for EAA too. Yeah. Yeah. If you don't, if you don't count

489
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my wife, she's always our executive producer. She's a, what? She's so cool. She's the best.

490
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She is the best. So good. I'm married her. So, uh, I didn't know that. And that's our, uh,

491
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that's our, our PayPal. Um, you can donate via PayPal. Um, if you go to argument, pod.com,

492
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I'm almost said fun fact Friday, argument, pod.com and click the donations link at the top of the

493
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page. It'll take you to our meat. Just media donation page. And, um, I've, oh, I have to go

494
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update that for EAA. Oh, yeah, I will. I'll get it done. Um, if, if EAA isn't up there,

495
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everything's an argument is up there. Just click the fun fact Friday button. It'll still work. It'll

496
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still get to us. Um, but yes, we definitely appreciate all of that. Uh, that keeps the

497
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servers running. We are a self hosted podcast and, um, I'll go into that in a few minutes too.

498
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Yeah. Um, we also have boosts. If you're using a modern podcast app, you can send

499
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satoshis to us through the boost function and it'll come right to our Bitcoin node here. And,

500
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uh, we received a few boosts. I can't remember if this one was said on our last episode of fun fact

501
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Friday. I don't think it was. Um, 1000 satoshis from Cameron, um, and it says from episode 209

502
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is where it was boosted and says, looking forward to the new show. Well, here it is episode one.

503
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We might've said that on the last show.

504
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Might've said that on the last show, but I can't remember a long time ago. And then, uh,

505
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Claire weight Brown from the creativity found podcast. Uh, we love Claire. She came on a fun

506
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fact Friday and we've been on her show podcasting 2.0 in practice. Yeah. She's awesome. And she's

507
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British. If you want to hear all about value for value, you can go check out our episode on there.

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I think it was episode two or three or four real early. Um, she sent 1000 satoshis and it says,

509
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it's been great to meet you both in 2024. Thanks so much. Uh, for fun facts, for fun facts. And I

510
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am looking forward, I'm looking forward to hearing the new show. Well, we hope you enjoy it.

511
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And then we received 111 sets from Cameron again, that is, uh, for this show. It's the first

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boost. We actually got for this show for the trailer. And it says, is this the five minute

513
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argument or the full half hour? And it's in quotes. Do you know what that's from? No. I believe it is

514
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:57,600
a Monty Python from a Monty Python skit where he pays people to argue with them or something along

515
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those lines. I will find it. Uh, I'll try and find it and, uh, either link it in the show notes or

516
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we'll talk about it on the next episode. Cause it's pretty funny. Uh, but we definitely thank

517
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everybody who sent us, uh, monetary donations. If you want to send us any artwork, collaborate on

518
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:17,680
music, anything like that, we've kind of got some generic, um, theme music right now, but we'll get

519
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that a little more customized. We would love some help on that. We've got some emails from some

520
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people who want to help and we got to get back with them now that the show is rolling. So, uh, yeah,

521
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thank you so much time, talent, or treasure. Anything you want to return to us or just let

522
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somebody else know about the show. Now that's value to us. So somebody who might enjoy it. We

523
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:43,360
don't want people who don't enjoy it to hear about the show. Oh yeah. So yeah, that's, that's our

524
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,920
value for value. We don't do ads. You can't be honest if you do ads. Um, we're not selling your

525
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ears to somebody. Um, doesn't seem right. Doesn't seem right to me. So we do have some current

526
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,280
events. I've just got a short little one I wanted to talk about. Yeah. Or do you want to go first?

527
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,960
Really a lot that I could find. So you couldn't, you couldn't pick something out.

528
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,920
Yeah. I'm sure we'll have. There's a lot of events going on. There's not a lack of events. I promise

529
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:12,800
you. So switching between a couple, uh, current events, the flag being flown at half staff.

530
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:19,600
So president Jimmy Carter passed away recently. Um, we're recording this on Inauguration Day,

531
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January 20th. Um, and he passed away. And typically when a president passed away

532
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that they fly all us flags at half staff for 30 days. Well, the problem with that

533
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is that there's an inauguration today and it's supposed to be full staff for inauguration.

534
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So there was kind of like a, what are we doing? So, um, I believe the, I've got to actually,

535
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I've got a clip here. We'll just play the, uh, play the news story. Hopefully it won't be too loud.

536
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It claims the flags at the Capitol will fly at half staff during Donald Trump's

537
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inauguration next Monday, but that's fiction on December 29th, former president Jimmy Carter

538
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passed away and president Biden ordered flags at the Capitol to be flown at half staff for 30 days.

539
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That would have meant that the flags would be at half staff during Monday's inauguration,

540
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which president elect Trump complained about. But this week, house speaker Mike Johnson ordered the

541
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flags be raised during the inauguration and then lowered back again on Tuesday to honor

542
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Jimmy Carter. If he would like to submit a question to her, she talked to you. Oh, my speaker,

543
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,760
Mike Johnson is a nerd. Um, so yeah, newscasters talk slow. They got to fill that 30 minutes up.

544
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:45,440
You know, we have no problem filling 30 minutes. We're already at 53 on this one. So yeah. So I

545
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was interested in the whole, the rules for half staff because I've always thought

546
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,920
it's kind of kind of weird, like America, America, we fly it full, you know,

547
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,680
keep going, press on no matter what happens, no matter who passes away, you know,

548
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,960
but you still want to honor those who have fallen. So I looked up the rules. What? Oh,

549
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:13,840
sorry. I just noticed I had my hair dye. Okay. So the rules for half staff, um, a,

550
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:19,600
the president or a governor can, um, order the flags flown at half staff for whatever reason,

551
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,760
if there's a tragedy or something like that. And then also Memorial day, which is last Monday in

552
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,600
May, uh, Patriot day, which is September 11th. Of course, we know what happened then. And Pearl

553
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,800
Harbor remembrance day, December 7th, those are all half staff days. Um, and then of course,

554
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:40,400
the president Carter passed away. Biden said 30 days. Um, so the proper procedure for flying,

555
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,600
I was like, like, like I said, I've always, I'm rambling flying full staff all the time.

556
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,640
We're America, but the procedure for flying the flag at half staff, I looked it up and I was like,

557
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:57,440
Oh, okay. I get it. You attach the flag. Then you raise it all the way up to the peak of the,

558
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:04,000
of the staff. You pause at the peak and says briefly pause at the, at the peak to honor the

559
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,000
resilience of the American spirit. And that's what I was talking about. America, you know,

560
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,400
resilience press on, you know, then you lower it to half staff.

561
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:20,560
And then go straight to half. And then at the end of the day, um, or at the end of the, uh,

562
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,920
designated morning period, raise the flag back up to the top again to acknowledge the nation's

563
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,640
collective tribute and then lower it all the way all the way down and, you know, put it away.

564
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,720
I was like, okay, that's a, that's, that's good. I never really looked into the, uh, half staff.

565
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,600
I thought they just raised it up to half staff when, because we were told to,

566
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,240
there's like a whole ceremony about it. And I was like, that's kind of cool.

567
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,440
Yeah. I just always thought it was something people do. I guess it's just something people do.

568
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,480
All right. So yeah, just low and lowering the flag to half staff. Interesting to me.

569
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,640
So what, what do you got for your current event?

570
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:59,360
I was going to talk about the tech talk ban. It's back. I don't know. I don't, I don't have.

571
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,520
Wait, the tech talk ban is back or the, because it was banned.

572
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,680
It was banned. And then it came back.

573
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:06,960
It was un-banned.

574
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,760
Yeah. Well, I gotta see if the other ones are still banned.

575
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,880
Cause there was two apps on my phone.

576
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,360
Well, it's, this is what I was talking about earlier with the, the rule, the,

577
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:23,520
the laws that have cute little names. Um, this is called the, the tech talk ban when it's actually

578
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,160
not tick talk. It's a lot of stuff.

579
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:32,240
Yeah. The servers are still up. So they're not, tick talk is not banned if you already had it,

580
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,800
but you can't download it in the app store. So I just looked that up. Um,

581
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,040
I think the other ones are still like that too.

582
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,000
Yeah. And I don't know if they blocked IPs or anything like that. Um,

583
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,560
I didn't look too deep into it. I know that it was, um, if you already had the app,

584
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,600
I don't know if they geo-fenced it to where America couldn't access the servers anymore.

585
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,600
I believe they did because I saw some hours. Yeah. For it wasn't for too long. It was like 14 hours,

586
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,240
something like that.

587
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,560
Cause I have a few friends that were just like, it's good.

588
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,240
But I thought it was funny. And I think this is probably what you're going to talk about.

589
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,920
Cause I'm looking at your screen right now and I can see the logo that everybody flocked to

590
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,120
something else. Tell us about it.

591
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:15,760
So there's this app called Yau Hong Shou, which is commonly called red note in the app store and

592
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:21,760
like by Americans it's literal translation from the Yau Hong Shou is little red book,

593
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:29,920
but I'm just going to call it red note. Uh, it's, it functions and looks like tick talk,

594
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:36,400
but there is different uses for it in like actual people that have been using this app for so long

595
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:42,400
have made like videos saying like, here's some guidelines for Yau Hong Shou and how to use it.

596
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,120
If you want to be respectful to this app, which I really, I understand that

597
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,600
because this is our community. Don't mess it up.

598
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,640
Please, please don't, please don't invade it and make it into tick talk,

599
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,360
which it's more as a like shopping guide.

600
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,200
Yeah. I heard it was almost Pinterest-y.

601
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,480
Yeah. It's honestly, it's kind of like a mix between tick talk,

602
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,400
Pinterest and Instagram on its Wikipedia page.

603
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,120
It says that it's kind of, I know I, I don't either. Well, I use Pinterest,

604
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:17,200
but I am familiar with how they work. And it is, it says in its Wikipedia crap.

605
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,600
I cannot speak. It says in its Wikipedia. It's like a replacement for Instagram,

606
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,480
but it's also like a Chinese shopper guide for like tourists.

607
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,920
Oh, okay.

608
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:31,440
But there's a lot of like bilingual people being like, welcome Americans. Welcome.

609
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Welcome to our app. Here's some rules. If you talk about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

610
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:40,960
you'll get banned. You know, I'm interested because I did watch a few people talking about

611
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:47,120
their experience on the app, the Red Note app. And they were saying that they are seeing a different

612
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,720
vision of China than they've been fed in the media.

613
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,400
Yeah. Because China is just a place like any other. It just has a government

614
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:02,240
that's different than ours. Right. And so I don't, but I, I have this mentality. Um,

615
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,240
and maybe it's just from the era that I'm from being Gen X. I don't believe anything I read on

616
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:11,840
the internet. Yeah. Well, I do. And then until I think about it for a second, I'm like, Oh my gosh,

617
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:18,720
can you wait a minute? So there's the, you know, Oh, the kids in China have to work in factories.

618
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,000
There's all the other stuff you hear, right? And then people are going on the app and they're like,

619
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,880
no, they're just living in their city. They're like normal. And they say that they don't have

620
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,960
any kids working in factories. They don't have any, I'm like, yeah, but are they lying? Yeah.

621
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,840
Like, are you trusting the people that you just met in another country who you know,

622
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:39,120
has strict rules about, um, speaking out against the government or speaking bad against, uh,

623
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,840
the country itself. Um, do you think they're going to get on your app and be like, Oh yeah,

624
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,640
absolutely. It's trash over here. No, I don't think they are.

625
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,200
But the people on the Yahoo went on tech talk and were like, okay, I have noticed that a lot

626
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,400
of Westerners are going into our app. So here's some guidelines. Also, people are trying to teach

627
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,440
the Americans Mandarin, which is really cool. I like that part.

628
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,240
I did read that a Duolingo has had a huge spike in people installing the,

629
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,000
are clicking onto the Mandarin thing. Yeah. I, I, I'm all for it.

630
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,000
Because there's people making friends. Learn every language you can. Um, that's awesome.

631
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:18,640
But they realized like, Oh, there's people from China that are just like me, but Chinese,

632
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,960
so I can make actual friends in like different countries.

633
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,320
Yeah. There's different classes of folks over there, just like there is here.

634
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,680
But, um, from what I've read, from what I've seen from people I know that have been there, um,

635
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,440
there's, there's good and bad areas. There's a lot of bad stuff going on.

636
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:38,800
There's a lot of good stuff going on. Um, but if folks are folks, wherever they are,

637
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:44,320
yeah. Um, I don't really agree with how Westerners are trying to make it into like tick tock,

638
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:53,440
but there's like, well, they jump, but make your own, make your own. Exactly. Yeah. So

639
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,480
the other one already has like its own culture around it and like the way it's built. It's,

640
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,560
it's a shopping guide. It's not a funny, funny, funny, funny, funny, funny, funny, funny, funny.

641
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,080
A lot of, a lot of people, when you say, Oh, well, I don't have millions of dollars

642
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,280
worth of servers and I don't have, and it's like, well, you don't need that to start out.

643
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,760
Yeah. You're talking about this earlier when we were like making lunch.

644
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,440
Yeah. You don't need millions of dollars in servers to start out. You start, you can,

645
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,880
you can run stuff on smaller servers and you can federate it. Uh, we have a mastodon server

646
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:25,280
that we run and only family members who are allowed to have accounts on it. I've got it locked down,

647
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:33,440
but my server talks to any other server on the Fed or Fediverse. So I can post stuff up there

648
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,520
and everybody can see it unless they don't want to. And they can block my server. Like let's say

649
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:44,560
that man, I hate that David guy. I mean, this is a jerk, right? I don't want anything from his

650
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,200
server. So he can just block my server and then nothing from my server will go there.

651
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,320
Everybody has their own rules. Um, the problem is, is that,

652
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:59,760
and this is going to go into our episode that we have, uh, tentatively titled do it yourself. Um,

653
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,920
it's going to go into that. We're going to go into, um, doing it yourself and how, yeah, it's harder,

654
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:13,360
but better and faster and stronger. Yeah. Harder, better, faster, stronger. But yeah. Uh,

655
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,720
did you have anything else you wanted to say about that topic or we want to wrap it up?

656
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,320
I think I've got, I think I got over it. All right. Well, yeah. I know people that have

657
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,560
downloaded it and have said, oh yeah, that's really cool. It is neat looking into another

658
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:30,000
culture from something that is mainly that culture. Yeah. It's very interesting. Um,

659
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,720
yeah. Well, everybody, that'll be it for this episode. Let's,

660
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:40,960
oh, we don't, we don't have very much of a theme song. Um, so we're just play the intro again until

661
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:51,200
we get an actual outro. We could just, um, yeah, that's our outro. No, we'll play a theme song, but

662
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,800
yeah, we hope you enjoy the show. Uh, we're going to have lots of good topics. Hopefully lots of

663
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:02,080
good guests to come on talking about a lot of different things that we are interested in and

664
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:09,040
that we wanted to argue about or agree about or talk about or whatever. Um, we're hope, hoping to

665
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,600
release on Tuesdays, but we're not putting hard limits on ourselves. We realized doing the other

666
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,920
show that that was, it got stressful. We had to go out every Thursday and it was always like,

667
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,640
Oh, we gotta get an episode out. Gotta go to episode out. But, um, we, we love the donations

668
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:28,320
and stuff, but I don't feel like we're making enough for it to be like we have to do on this

669
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,880
date. So if we're a day too late on the thing, we're not even going to stress about it. We're

670
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,520
going to try and release once a week, but it might not, might not always be on Tuesday. Um,

671
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:42,960
if you have any topics that you'd love to hear our advice on, we're willing to give advice

672
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,840
from her generation, from my generation. I think that would be fun to do. Um,

673
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:54,480
or we could just go on like Reddit, not to mention Reddit, but we can go on like the advice,

674
01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:00,560
advice pages and just answer people's, uh, terrible questions. Right. Now I think,

675
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:05,120
I think it needs to be part of the community. I think so too. And, um, it's more fun that way.

676
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,560
Even if it's not like a question you want answered for yourself, be like, Oh man, I'd

677
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:16,000
like to hear what these guys have to say about this. Send us an email, mail at argument pod.com.

678
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,680
And, um, I'm still working on the website. I've got some tricks up my sleeve with a new podcast

679
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,400
making app and transcription thing. And I'm working on a lot of stuff. I'm hoping to release

680
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:32,240
a video about it all. Uh, once I get all the bugs worked out and, um, look forward to that.

681
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,240
If you're actually into making podcasts or anything like that, I've been working hard on it. It's

682
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,360
pretty cool. So, uh, keep, keep, uh, you know, keep your eye out for that. Yeah.

683
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:49,280
And we listened to that jazz. Oh yeah. Wait, we hope you'll come back next, uh, next episode.

684
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:55,280
I think we might be doing the do it yourself next. And then we're, we're working on this.

685
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,200
Who do you trust series? It's going to be fantastic. Oh yeah. And then we're going to

686
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,520
be having a big breakdown of AI. We're going to get cut off and now we just watch this.

687
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:12,880
Oh, it didn't. Didn't do it. But yeah. Uh, y'all have a fantastic, fantastic way.