Hey everybody.
You jumped your game.
We're back and guess what?
Guess what?
What?
We're all better.
I feel good.
Yeah.
Feeling feeling pretty good.
Uh, I still got a little bit of, a little bit of congestion, but it's, it's on its way
out.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
So last week.
What?
If you.
Oh.
Welcome to everything's before we get into that.
Yeah.
Welcome to everything's an argument.
We're a podcast.
We're a podcast that comes out, uh, but you know, between a week and two weeks, you know,
when we get to it and we talk about stuff and we talk educational question.
Right.
But also it's a comedy show.
It's a comedy show.
So we talk about stuff, but don't take our word for it.
Yes.
Cause we're comedians.
We're comedians.
Never, never.
Uh, unless I explicitly say, okay, I know what I'm talking about on this one.
Um, yeah, I'm an expert.
I'm an expert.
Never, never really go a hundred percent on what we say.
We're going to experts.
Um, sometimes it's a, it's a gag.
It's a bit.
Um, yeah.
But yeah.
So, uh, this week, this week is going to be better than last week.
Yeah.
After we posted last week's episode, I started getting some messages from some folks and
they were like, yo, your, your show's all messed up.
Right.
So in the post episode, I knew I was like, yeah, we were sick, but like, I actually went
back and listened and it sounded like there were, there were time jumps and weird edits
that I didn't make and like some really weird stuff going on.
I did actually edit a little bit out of last week's episode just because we were so sick
and there were some parts that I just had to cut out.
Um, but I didn't do this.
But I thought I might have because it's been a while since I've used the editing software.
And I was like, Oh, did I mess up?
But then I went and listened to the actual MP3 that was spit out by the editing software
and it sounded fine.
And I was like, that's the one I checked before I uploaded it.
However, sorry, that wasn't for you.
My little, I'm tired.
This is boring.
Um, the, the little application that I'm making that does all the post production for us and
puts the MP3 tags on and adds the, the, the show art and all that.
I was using a, uh, uh, a package called mutagen to add the ID three tags to the MP3.
And that's the stuff like the art and the title and all that.
So if you play it in an MP3 player, you've got all that information.
Something went wrong in their code.
It wasn't my code because when I swapped for mutagen out for the other one with the same
parameters, it all worked perfectly.
However, that mutagen thing, when it added the ID three tags, it messed up the audio
somehow.
No idea what happened.
Anyway, I ended up re-uploading the episode after re-encoding and getting it all fixed.
So if you listened to last week's episode and you could tell that something was really
wrong, there's like jumps in time of like 30 seconds, just missing.
So then, then, uh, yeah, you can go back and listen.
It should be fixed now.
You may have to re-download the episode if you're a downloader or not a streamer.
Um, but yeah, that's sorry.
I didn't, I didn't check the absolute final product.
I checked the final before adding the ID three tags.
And apparently I need to check after I had the ID three tags.
Anywho, what are we talking about?
We are talking about, uh, isms.
Yeah.
Like three in particular.
Yeah.
There's so many isms.
There's some, we're just going to talk about a bunch of them today.
We're just going to go into some isms.
Mainly two in particular.
Yeah.
Um, but a lot of our episode is going to be thanking you.
Yeah.
Our producers, our taxpayers.
Yeah.
We received so much support from the last episode.
Maybe we need to get sick more often or just, I don't feel good.
Um, I got a note saying that I sound like I had just finished crying.
Um, the episode, I don't think I cried this time getting sick.
I whined a lot, but I didn't cry.
Yeah.
So yeah, we got so many boosts.
We're going to go ahead and start hitting the value for value first thing in the episode
right after our little intro.
Um, it feels right to thank people up front.
I've been thinking about lately.
And uh, yeah, value for value means we put the show out for free.
We're never going to charge.
We're never going to put ads on it.
If you're listening to our show and you hear an advertisement, we didn't put it there.
We didn't authorize it.
Somebody else is making money off of our show.
Um, let us know.
We'll try and get our show pulled from that app.
I saw an evil way.
This company's could do sponsorships.
How can make AI of our voices make it sound like we're endorsing it.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
It could happen.
If you ever hear us endorsing a product, um, that sounds like an advertisement and it's
not coming from this show from argument pod.com on our official feed.
Please let us know.
I'd like to, uh, get the ball rolling on a cease and desist.
Right.
If you just hear our voices somewhere.
Um, anywho.
Yeah, that's, that's happened to a lot of people that actually happened to Jeff geerling,
the raspberry pie guy, which we, he does more than raspberry pie stuff, but, uh, somebody
used his voice and it was a whole saga.
You can go look that up.
It was interesting.
Um, the employee who did it at the company didn't get approval and it turned into a whole
thing and it was, it was crazy.
We are going to talk about AI.
We need to get Kyle.
Um, Kyle Abare, the voice actor wants to come on and talk about AI and how it affects the,
uh, voice acting industry.
Cause that's a, you know, it's getting pretty good at copying voices.
And even like cadence and how you speak and stuff like that.
But yeah, value for value show.
We put the show out for free.
If you feel like you get some value from it, we can return that valor value.
However you see fit, we don't put a dollar amount on it.
Um, we don't know what it's worth to you.
Um, it may just be worth giving us topic ideas, which we've gotten some in our notes here.
So we're going to start, uh, one week ago and we have, I'm going to read one or two
and then you can read one or two from fountain podcast app fountain.
We received a boost of 2,222 sets from bully steed, uh, to the DIY episode.
So much to unpack beige clutter.
And how about your curiosity to imprint your, your version of what you would like to see
in the world.
Hope you're all on the mend.
Look into fire cider.
Now that you're a real podcaster DIY immune boost.
Yes.
Um, fire cider is awesome.
It's, um, apple cider vinegar, horseradish, ginger root, turmeric, garlic, onion,
habaneros, um, it's just a whole bunch of aromatics and some spiciness.
Uh, we have done, I've done a version of this before and I didn't like it.
It worked, but I didn't like it.
Also bully said DIY and said DIY.
Do yourself it.
Does 2000, 2000 sets.
I definitely appreciate that.
Um, the part where you talked about the imprinting your version of what you
would like to see in the world.
I think that's awesome, especially in like the computer space.
When you DIY it, you can customize everything.
I've been working with arch Linux.
I just started installing that on some of our old computers just to see how well it
runs and, um, the customization you can do on that version of the operating system is
amazing, which I mean, I believe you can do it on all of them, but this one's like
built for customization.
It's so good.
Um, a lot of typing, a lot of terminal work, but that's okay.
Next, next boost is from podcast guru, another modern podcast app where you can
send Satoshi's to your favorite podcast as 1,300 and 30, no, 1,321 sets from Randy
black, I got to get in touch.
I'm writing it down.
I'm writing it down right now.
And my after show tasks contact Randy.
All right.
Uh, another great episode.
Keep it up.
Uh, I wish I could get my offspring to podcast with me.
Go podcasting kids.
Keep bugging them.
Just keep bugging them about it.
It worked for me.
Yeah.
Hey, you want to do a show?
You want to do a show?
Be fun.
Do a show.
Podverse.
Uh, this is seven, seven, seven sets from Cameron, uh, just for the show in
general, a long time, no boost.
Yeah.
Thanks, Cameron.
Cameron runs the IPFS podcasting.net, which is how we host our show on the
interplanetary file system.
Speaking of which, do you want to read the next one or she's your honor.
Thanks to Randy black for mentioning IPFS on, I will.
Oh, okay.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
This was from drug Scott.
Thanks to Randy black for mentioning IPFS podcasting on his boost
to grandma and episode two.
This prompted me to give it everything in arguments podcast, a golden
heart on my IPFS node.
So, uh, it was 5,432 sets, five, four, three, two.
Um, so what a golden heart means is that Dred has a node.
Um, he has his computer storing our episodes.
And if you're listening to our episode, it may have come from Dred's node.
Hey, there's, we've got a, quite a few nodes storing our episodes for us and
distributing them when people go to download them and drive as one of them.
So not only is Dred helping us out financially with boosts and a monthly,
uh, sustaining donation, we have, um, he's helping us with our distribution,
which is awesome.
We're, we're way more decentralized that way.
All right.
Why don't you go to the next one?
All right.
So I can yawn.
One, two, three, four stats from drugs.
Scott on the do it yourself episode.
DIYing mentioned at the end of episode two while listening.
I'm prepping for my, uh, hydroponics hydroponics systems for the growing season.
All stuff built DIY with lots of veggies for every year, tomato of various kinds,
cucumbers, zucchini, bell pepper, lettuce, and more.
Heck yeah.
Yeah.
I would eat the crap out of that.
Hydroponics is awesome.
And that's, it's something I've always wanted to do, but oh my gosh, it's so much work.
Right.
Um, yeah, gardening is, I'm not good at it.
I forget things and I, something dies and I get all, I get all upset.
I get like sad.
Um, and then.
Dribb sent us another one, one, one, one from fountain testing fountain boost.
I don't know if you really wanted that red or, you know,
and then another one, one, one, one from Dribb Scott.
Um, don't give up on the thought of neuroscience.
If it's truly interesting to you, there are good companies out there with good values.
I work for a medium sized pharma company full of good people with good principles.
Well, there you go.
Hey, just got to dig around and find a, find a good one to work for.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Hey, uh, read next one.
Uh, from Dribb Scott one, one, one, one on the, who do you trust episode?
Value for value episode three value.
Whoa.
Episode three value for value segment mentioning volunteering.
I'm involved in too many organizations.
I find that the biggest problem is that people don't really know how to be direct
when asking people to help.
It's important to get people involved so early so they don't become complacent.
Set expectations early.
Yes.
Uh, it was one thing I've always wanted to, all the organizations I've ever volunteered
for, everybody's got ideas.
Everybody's got their little pet projects and they're, you know, they're like, they
come up with an idea, but then they don't actually want to do the work for it.
You know, I've, I've always kind of, I'm not really involved in any, any
organizations right now, but if I go into another one, which I eventually will,
I'm going to have the attitude of, and I'm going to try and impart this on the
other people don't say, Hey, you know what?
Somebody should dot, dot, dot.
You should say, I'm going to dot, dot, dot who would, who's going to help me.
So that way, like, if you're going to suggest that we do something, um, you, you're,
you got to take the lead on it.
You know, you've got to get the team together and figure it out.
You know what you said?
Oh my gosh, what me and my friend today came up with a new shoe that should be made.
Oh yeah.
If you work at either of these companies, make it happen.
Crocs.
He leaves.
They don't exist.
Healy Crocs.
They might hold on.
I'll keep, I'll keep reading.
Um, zip ties.
This is another boost from drive.
Scott one, one, one, one zip ties should only be used to sweetly and nicely create
bundles of dozens to hundreds of ethernet cables until the bundle conforms to the
route of path.
All right.
Keep going.
Healy Crocs exist.
They're 19 bucks on sale right now.
So I should get some healing frogs.
The back of the, oh, you, your heel is visible in the back.
So it's a Healy Healy.
It's a Healy Healy.
Save a picture of that.
I am.
For the show notes.
It should be on screen right now if we remember.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Zip ties should only be used sweetly and nicely create bundles of dozens to hundreds
of ethernet cables until the bundle conforms to the rounded path.
Then you wrap with hook and loop.
Um, you didn't hear that commonly commonly referred to as Velcro, but we don't like
to advertise, um, but drab skin said hook and loop, who drab skin, uh, along the cable
roots and clip off the zip ties.
Thank you.
Proper, proper cable management is a passion of my work.
Oh my gosh.
At my last job, the cable management was.
Questionable.
Hold on.
You're ready to hear another one.
Okay.
Have you, have you ever seen a bowl of spaghetti?
No, no, you won't know what I'm talking about, but I think drab will a bowl of spaghetti
is exactly what this our network cabinet looked like.
And it was, it was not fun to trace problems.
Computer cards at our school.
Oh yeah.
In the back of them.
Just, just a spaghetti mess.
Looks like a factorial factory.
Yeah.
Um, crap.
Yes.
Cable management's important.
All right.
Let's roll along another one, one, one, one from drab Scott.
Drab Scott's rolling one, one, one, ones this week.
Oh yeah.
Another thing people should have is gaffer tape.
I agree.
Never tape a cable or extension cord down with packing, take, take packing tape or
bad at talking to that or duct tape.
Yeah.
Duct tape leaves residue and a packing tape.
It just, you're gonna, you're gonna have problems.
Gaffer tape is a good stuff.
Yeah.
Roll a gaffer tape.
That looks pretty cool.
Another one, one, one, one from a gaffer tape.
You ever seen, you ever been somewhere where they had a bunch of cables running
on the ground and they had tape over them?
School.
That's gaffer tape.
I bet it's duct tape.
It's probably duct tape.
As ghetto as our school system is.
Um, another thing that people should, oh, that was the last one.
Here we go.
Uh, another one, one, one, one regarding the presentation party.
Good clean nerd fun.
Love it.
Dude.
It's amazing.
I haven't worked on my presentation anymore.
Something tells me that me.
This has had some nerdy land parties back in the day, speaking of
ethernet cable messes and needing gaffer tape.
Uh, we rented out the conference room of a holiday in back in the.
Late nineties, early two thousands.
To have a land party.
We, uh, we went around all the local businesses that had anything
to do with tech or computers.
One of the local computer stores brilliantly brought in a table and he
had power strips, power supply cables, ethernet cables, um, video cards,
Ram, he just an extra hard drives.
He just brought in a whole bunch of stuff that people would be like, Oh man,
I wish I had more hard drive space.
And he'd be like, here you go.
Um, he made a ton of money and then he's like sponsored
the tournaments and stuff too.
So we had a, we had a blast.
I've been to a lot of, a lot of land parties and I got some stories that.
Even though this isn't a kid show anymore.
I don't want to talk about them.
We got another one, one, one, one sets from Dred Scott episode three, many episodes.
Would love to hear me just talk about home media server.
You mentioned, what are you using storing and how to listen?
What I can't read with commas.
Sorry.
Would you punctuation breaks?
Love to hear me just talk about home media server.
You mentioned comma, what you are using, comma, storing, comma, how to listen
and watch comma, et cetera, calm or period.
I apostrophe of, I'm starting to posturfies.
I've been thinking about this lately.
Period.
Lila has issues when I put punctuation in my text messages.
She gets so much something the other day.
Hold on.
You said something the other day and it really got on my nerves.
I thought you were, you were mad at me.
I just put punctuation when I type.
It's just, it happens.
My brain does it.
Pull this up.
Um, yeah, I will definitely go into that.
I am reworking my entire quote unquote home lab.
I don't like that term, but that's the term people use for it.
I'm mad at me for saying MK.
Okay.
I wasn't mad at you for saying, okay.
You said, okay.
Question mark, question mark.
I don't know.
I don't know the context.
So I said, uh, I was asking about buying Sonic Adventure too.
Cause it was on sale on steam for five bucks.
And you said, I guess, like as joking and I said, okay, okay.
Thank you loving dad who I love.
And then you said, okay, question mark, question mark.
And I said, it means okay.
And he said, ah, I thought you were.
Really mad at me for saying, okay.
No, I just, I was messing with you.
Oh, well.
Okay.
So I'm, I'm looking at redoing my entire home lab.
One of my buddies was talking about.
We should record through the process and like make a video series out of it.
Because I've been watching a lot of tech YouTubers and stuff lately.
And like you, if you've only got like a thousand subscribers, these companies
start sending you like free computer stuff.
To like review or whatever.
And I'm like, I'll take some free stuff.
I'm not changing how I feel or said what I say about it, but I'll take free stuff.
What do I say?
What do you want me to say?
Uh, but yes, I'm, uh, I can do audio episodes about that.
Uh, just a short one.
I use Plex.
Um, if I were to start over, I probably wouldn't.
I probably use jellyfin.
Um, but, uh, we use Plex and I'll go into it deeper, uh, soon.
I like, I can actually probably record an episode this week about that.
I'm doing a little audio short episode about my media server.
It's been asked for.
Yeah.
Um, and then we got a boost from Jeff Scott.
Big one.
The big boost.
We got 20,000 sats from Jeff Scott saying another great episode
of everything's an argument.
Love the new format.
Hope you all get better soon.
And we're getting better.
Almost there.
We're almost there.
We appreciate that.
That's so much 20,000 sats.
Big baller.
I don't have that queued up.
What?
I'm here.
I sang a song.
You can sing.
Nah, I'm good.
Just call it parody.
Just change one word and say it's parody.
And then, man, we got a lot of donations this week and we appreciate every single
single cent, um, cash that word.
We're trying to get Lila a car.
Please.
She just finished up, uh, the, the classroom portion of driver's
ed portion and it can take up to six months.
And then, so she's got about a year to a year and a half before
she's driving around by herself.
No, I still have about two years till I'm driving around by myself.
Oh yeah.
Well, I meant actually in a car without a licensed teacher.
Hopefully in about, about six months.
And then my license, and then I get a provisional license after a
year having my permit, my permit.
And I don't know how long after that I get my, I think it's a half a year.
I think it's six months.
Yeah.
I think appointment with the, it's a whole thing, but yeah, we're starting
to try and save up for, um, for a vehicle.
And so we definitely appreciate all of the, all of the, uh, donations.
She may be setting up a GoFundMe.
So me and a couple of friends made a GoFundMe for our Fortnite
avatars the other day.
I thought it was really funny.
For shoes for your Fortnite characters.
We're trying to buy the shark slippers.
But we received a $20 cash app.
No nation from Kevin Hallis.
He runs a fallacy.
Stop flicking matches, David.
Happy V for V.
We have been wrecking our brains.
I cannot remember.
He said this one like I got off school.
I remember something about matches and I can't, I cannot place.
And I went to our, I went to our transcript search and typed in matches and fire.
And I can't, I'm wondering if it was, did I talk about when
I almost burned my house down?
I don't know, but let's not talk about that.
Unless we did.
It was, I was like six.
Well, yeah.
And I was flicking matches and I thought I had put the
match all the way out.
And I didn't.
And I put it in the trash can in the bathroom and we lived in a trailer.
Trailers go up real fast.
Yeah.
I've got some matches over there.
I've always got matches out here in case.
You give you all a sound effect.
No, no, it's, I don't know where they are.
It's too much work.
I know exactly.
I just saw that.
Well, then you go get it.
We definitely appreciate everybody's help with, with, with all the, uh, the funding.
We definitely appreciate it.
Um, and we've been contacted.
We've got some, somebody wanting to help us out with maybe some music and sound
effects and things like that, which is awesome.
And we'll get back with you on that shortly.
Now what we're actually here to talk about 22 minutes.
Chapter's going to be super easy.
This episode.
Um, yeah, so we are going to be talking about communism and capitalism.
Yeah.
And a couple more isms along the way.
Right.
I am, I'm a big fan of communism.
I know that may come as a surprise to you.
Oh, I love communism.
Communism is a great, great, great way to hear us out.
Hear us out.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's just little, little problem of human nature.
Yeah.
Um, for, for folks who may not be, uh, as educated as us, as I pull up my notes,
because I don't know what to say.
Um, capitalism is mainly focused around money and getting money.
Everything revolves around money.
Like everything and you do that you do in a capitalist society revolves around money.
This is, this is my understanding of it.
That's your understanding of it.
Okay.
So what's your understanding of communism?
Communism is everyone kind of does their part and everyone kind of gets paid the
same or a very similar amounts.
So I just want to know without you like digging or reading what I've got open.
I want to hear, what do you think the pros and cons of capitalism are?
Capitalism.
People will work.
Uh, people actually put in work first stuff.
Okay.
So we're doing pros or cons.
Okay.
Yeah, it's true.
Um, pros.
Let's go pros first.
Okay.
Cause we're positive.
Um, Rose, I would say like, again, everyone really does their part and no one tries to
take advantage of capitalism because I know it's not going to work out.
Um, capitalism, if you're a billionaire, heck yeah, capitalism is the best thing
ever happened to you.
You're, you're rolling in money.
You're getting more money as you go.
Um, so if I was a billionaire, you know, capitalism, that'd be a pro for me.
Uh, capitalism, what's more pros?
Well, one of the things you said is not straight real, real in line with
capitalism, like nobody takes advantage of capitalism.
That's like one of the arguments against capitalism is that people will take
advantage of other people for money.
Yeah.
Um, but I'm not going to dig too deep yet.
So capitalism you're saying pro is that people want to work hard because they
know that if they work hard, they can get ahead or they believe that in theory.
In theory.
Yeah.
Um, so what's a con of capitalism?
A con of capitalism is, uh, there's so many, um,
you, if you don't, oh my gosh, I can't hear, I, sorry.
There I am.
Headphones were turned out.
Hey guys, my headphones were turned out a little bit.
I couldn't hear myself.
Uh, you.
Yeah.
Think, well, one of the, one of the big ones is get people getting taken advantage
of, like you were saying,
we're going to take advantage of like, um, billionaires stay billionaires and
like the working class and people below that can't live because they don't
have money, you know?
Okay.
So let's, let's go.
If minimum wage gets high, higher than prices are going to go up and it's just
an endless cycle.
Okay.
So I'm going to, I'm not going to argue for or against anything until
you've said your piece on both.
Okay.
So what are the pros of communism?
Communism.
Oh, let's see.
Let's see.
I'm just thinking, I don't have any notes.
It's fine.
Um, so communism is where the.
The state owns the fact that, you know, production or the people.
Pro is that no matter where really you're working or how you're working,
this can also be a con.
You get pretty much treated the same.
So whether you're a doctor or whether you're a ditch digger.
But that also might be because I grew up in a capitalist society that I think that
way, but that's also a con.
Right.
And that, you know, that's the, we are products of where we live in a society.
We live in a society.
Let's start talking like a joker.
No, I'm not going to start talking like this.
Then you'd be one of those people.
Okay.
So what's a con of con, con-yanism, con-yanism,
con-yanism.
Oh my gosh.
Um,
I don't know.
I just throw it out there.
Okay.
No, no, no.
It's fine.
If you don't have anything off the top of your head, it's fine.
I mean, we can go along with it.
Okay.
Yeah.
So what you're saying about the pros for capitalism is that people want to work
hard because they feel like if they work harder in theory, they can get ahead.
Right.
Yeah.
So it inspires people to like want money, you know?
Right.
Well, money gets you things in capitalism.
Um, cause other people are capitalists too.
So it's like, you know, that you can get what you want if you have money.
And then you look, how do I get money?
Oh, I work harder.
Yeah.
And I was.
Or con people.
Yeah.
Or steal.
Um, so one of the cons of capitalism to me is that there is, there are ways, lots
and lots and lots of ways to take advantage of people, um, who need money in order to
further your own interests.
And you can really like lose the, the, Hey, these are human beings.
You know, I should treat them better.
Blah, blah, blah.
Right.
So you can have that happen in capitalism.
Now communism pros, it's a fantastic system of government because everybody eats.
Um, everybody gets taken care of, but it's a terrible form of government or, you
know, organizational structure because, because of human nature, communism goes
against human nature on a large scale on a small scale.
Communism works great.
Cause most families are communist.
If you're, if you're really looking at it, you know, um, everybody pitches in,
everybody gets benefit, but it doesn't, it doesn't scale simply because there are
there are people who don't want to work.
Right.
And the people who don't work still get to get the benefit of not working.
Now you've mentioned something about minimum wage when we were talking about
capitalism.
And one of the things that gets me about the minimum wage is that it's not pure
capitalism.
We don't, we don't have pure capitalism here in America.
Yeah.
We have an extremely government interfered with capitalism.
Yeah.
And that's how billionaires can get made because there are regulations on
businesses and because the government refers rich people.
Right.
And that's, that's because the rich people help them get elected.
Yep.
So, um, but what happens is you'll have a company like I've seen it even just on
like an HOA, which isn't actually a form of government, but it's like a contracted
form of government that you voluntarily enter into.
Yeah.
It's like a very low form of government.
My uncle used to live in an HOA and they were only allowed to have one particular
kind of fence in one of two colors.
And it was a very, like, it wasn't just a fence you could go by at any hardware
store.
It was a very particular kind of fence.
And the guy who was in charge of the HOA and had been since the HOA is created,
his brother was the only guy that sold that fence.
So you end up with stuff like that, but on a larger scale with the government.
So like, uh, you know, let's, we'll, we'll call somebody, I don't know.
Let's, let's pick a name.
Shmeel on trussk owns a big owns a big company.
Right.
Yeah.
And, um, that, that company needs some, need some help from the government
to squeeze out the competition.
And I'm not saying Elon Musk does any of this.
I'm not saying he doesn't do any of this.
I'm just saying I picked a funny name because he's involved in government now.
And he's a business guy, but he, he needs, uh, he needs his competition to, to have
some issues.
So he gets in good with some politicians and they make some regulations that he
can easily handle, whereas his other, you know, his competitors aren't ready for
this regulation and they have to scramble to catch up to it.
And it costs them a bunch of money and time.
So you have stuff like that happening.
So you're not dealing with pure capitalism where it's just competition
between, between two companies or three companies, whatever you've got the
government interfering and messing things up.
So if we're talking about pure capitalism, I'm much more of a fan than pure
communism, because in capitalism, I know somebody's motives.
Their motive is I want money.
Yeah.
The motive is money.
It's always money.
So, and actually a lot of people are nicer when it comes to when you know, their
motives, because it's like racism kind of goes away as long as everybody's money's
green, you know, it's like, um, any, anyway, uh, that's the, the, the basics of it.
And I feel like communism, like I said, it would work out great if everybody, if
nobody was greedy, if nobody was lazy.
Um, and if resources were sleepy, happy, grumpy, grumpy, they'll be
sneezy, bashful doc.
Yeah.
If, if nobody was lazy or greedy, communism would work great.
And also you have to have, you have to have, um, infinite resources.
So in, uh, what's it called?
Star Trek, they have these things called replicators and they can just make anything.
Like, so you just walk up to it and you're like, Hey, give me a 32 inch, uh, you
know, HDTV, uh, the, the, you know, Sony brand or whatever, and it would just print
one like it's like instant, it just materializes in front of you.
So it was a post scarcity society.
There was no, it would turn energy into matter.
So you could have anything.
So like once scarcity goes away, a lot of the problems in the world go away.
Then all of your problems basically become ideological, like religious wars
and things like that.
You don't have, you don't have wars over land per se because why is land valuable?
Because of its resources, right?
If resources are infinite, what's, you know, you don't, you don't have to worry
about it, so communism would work great in an ideal situation.
Um, but in the broken world that we live in capitalism, at least you know, the
motives of the people behind it.
So if you were starting a society, Lila, what is, um, would you do out of these two?
Can't make up one.
Oh, and we're talking about a big old society, not like 15 people, 20 people.
Why can't I make up my own?
Cause these are both.
Okay.
So no, this is a good idea.
What, how would you set up government?
I'd base it on mustache size.
I'd base it off of me.
I'm the ruler.
Okay.
Totalitarian government.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what do you know about totalitarian governments?
Um, but I'm not done explaining.
Okay.
Yeah.
Go, go, go.
Tell me about your, tell me about it.
What do, what are you going to do?
When I make my, my nation, right?
I'm going to be the ruler and I, I determine everything.
I know everybody in this nation, right?
Like personally on a personal level.
Yeah.
So everybody gets paid what I want.
All follow.
What I want them to get paid.
Everybody just helps himself out.
Uh, they come to me if they have a problem.
I'm kind of like, uh, not gonna say that I'm kind of, I'm
kind of like the best, you know?
Uh, everybody has to wear a shirt that says Lila's the best.
Yeah.
And then, um, so when I die, it doesn't get passed down to anybody
cause it's just my nation.
It's just the Lila nation, you know?
Um, so when I die, uh, everyone else does too.
I blow it up.
Yeah.
You get one of those implants in your heart and if it stops beating
for like five minutes, nukes are where.
So like everybody will get five minutes to like, they'd hook, they'd, uh,
they hook your heart up to something that would artificially pump it forever.
Yo, they would, yo, they don't, they, they know me.
When you go to totalitarianism, I, the only, like the only one I can think
of off the top of my head is North Korea.
Yeah.
And North Korea is so bad that like Kim Jong Un, he's just like, he's just
like, Hey, everybody has to have this haircut now.
Oh my gosh.
Some of the stuff in North Korea is like crazy to me.
Right.
It's a photo of Kim Jong Un in a degree.
Here's the crazy thing though, that I think about a lot when I think
about stuff like North Korea, the people don't know any different.
Do they though?
They don't.
They genuinely don't have any sources of media that aren't
completely controlled by the government.
So they really from birth, they think that this is what the world is.
And they think that Americans are green and have horns.
And like, there was a lady that, um, defected, like got out of there and
she didn't understand why Americans didn't have horns.
Like she genuinely thought that all Americans had horns because
she'd been told that we should make a propaganda episode.
You should do that.
Propaganda?
Yeah.
We should just totally like redirect this episode, make it into a propaganda.
Propaganda is the best.
Right.
Oh my gosh.
We went to the, um, Pearl Harbor in Hawaii.
Yeah.
And the propaganda posters on that as if I didn't go.
Yeah.
You barely remember it.
We need to go back.
Um, some of the propaganda posters on the ships were so cool.
They had that like, you know, 1940s, like military, just like, ah,
this is strong, big, bold colors.
It was so good.
Nazi propaganda is the like, no, propaganda is like something that I researched.
Art style is amazing.
It's really how they brainwash people.
They knew and they knew what they're doing with the brain stuff.
Yeah.
I'm not a Nazi.
I promise.
Take my word for it.
I promise.
Um, yes.
Uh, propaganda posters are amazing.
And like a lot of the interpretations of 1984 by Orwell, like the art, artistic
interpretations, I read that in English for, um, you should read before then.
Oh yeah.
Uh, we could do a whole episode of the four and it's parallels with how things are now.
Uh-huh.
That would be an awesome episode.
It'd be dope.
Um, but yeah, like a totalitarian state.
Like if you're told something your entire life, you believe it.
If literally everything you see aligns with what you were told, kind of like how,
like they tell us, they tell us our whole life that the earth is round.
When we all know that it's a donut shape, like you, you figure that out.
Once you hit like 40, you realize it's a donut.
And, and so the, the flat earth, the hollow earth and the round earth are all correct.
Because donuts are round, flat, and have a hole in the middle.
So, you know, all right.
No, you don't agree.
All right.
Skepticism.
It's another ism.
Uh, but no totalitarianism is rarely ever a good situation.
Uh, no, I, I said that as a joke.
No, I know.
I know.
Uh, you're, it's just one dude.
And like everything he says goes.
So there, there is no law beyond what's in his brain.
So he's just like, I don't like that guy's face.
Shoot him.
That's it.
You're dead.
You know, like, and it's, it's cool.
Like it's legal because he said it.
Um, even like England, I think we talked about this on like episode two of Fun
Fact Friday talking about England's monarch, the queen or king.
Nothing that they do can be illegal.
So they can't do anything illegal.
If they do something, it's legal for them to do it.
It's just, it's just so weird.
But it comes down to like, they, they have had.
Sorry.
I have a clip.
I'm ready to play.
All right.
Clip time.
Okay.
Turn it out a bit.
Uh, that's you.
I'm looking for it.
Where's the blue?
So this is what came to my mind.
Like when I heard out, when I, when I heard out that, whoa.
How do I say that?
When I found out, there you go.
When I, when I heard, I was mixing heard and found out when I found out
that the queen died, this is what ran through my head.
There is no Easter bunny.
There is no tooth fairy.
And there is no queen of England.
That's from Mega Mind.
That's from Mega Mind too.
I've never seen Mega Mind.
And it's so funny.
Yeah.
Lila didn't believe British people were real at one point.
I generally, and Canadians.
Until I met a Canadian, I didn't think that they were like real people.
And I don't think can, can they.
Canooks.
Is that a slur?
You probably shouldn't say it if you're unsure.
That question mark?
Unsure if it's a slur.
Oh my, that should be our new show.
We can do words every week.
Just say words that sound kind of slurish, even though they may not be.
Oh my gosh.
There was one that we came up in band class and I can't remember what it was.
Okay.
What other, what other forms?
Uh, oligarchy, autocross.
Yeah.
All the dark keys.
Oh my gosh.
I love, um, talking about like different forms of government.
Okay.
It's really cool to me.
Communism.
Yeah.
And, um, that's where the, the people control the means of production.
And socialism is a little different.
Yes.
So we have socialism.
We have aspects of socialism inside our government, which a lot of people, a lot
of people like, like to mention this when there's arguments about capitalism
versus socialism, they're like, you know, the military socialist is, you know,
and when you're in the military, you have to work and you get, you get taken care of.
You get a place to live, you get free healthcare, you get, um, food.
There's a mess hall.
You can go eat at there's, um, you know, there's a bunch of resources
you can use on the base.
Right.
However, it doesn't produce anything.
I mean, it produces defense, which is important, but the money from, or the
money for the military comes from outside the military.
So you can't really say it's socialism.
Yeah.
Because in socialism, you still have to produce things to trade and eat.
Marxism are very similar.
So they're about the same thing.
Familiar with Marxism, but I haven't looked into it as much as I would have
liked to before I talk about it.
Yeah.
So Marxism is a ideology developed by Karl Marx and Frederick Ingalls.
I don't know how to say his name.
So I always mess it up really bad when I say it.
Friedrich.
I know.
Friedrich.
It is almost like communism.
Right.
It's like right there.
It's what developed into communism.
It's kind of a way for them to make capitalism into communism.
It's like, it's like a theory.
It's not really a working thing.
Socialism is what Marxism planned to be.
Yeah.
Socialism is actually, there's a lot of countries, um, a lot of the Scandinavian
countries are socialist.
The government takes care of the people and the people give most of what
they make to the government.
There is still a, you get to keep some of your stuff, but the taxes are
extremely high in those nations.
Yeah.
So like Marxism is socialist, but not all socialism follows Marxist.
There's Marxism.
Right.
You know, you know, there's, there's good and bad to all of it.
And the problem is a people get corrupt with power and B it's just, there's
scarce resources, like if there's a bad crop one year, like some, some crazy,
something crazy happens and there's only half the amount of food who gets it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And the people, what you have to have leaders, you have to have
people organizing it.
Right.
So like the people who grow the food are going to try and
squirrel some away, right?
Yeah.
Not distributed, whatever the via the distribution system is, but then that
means that they can trade the food that they've scrolled away for other things
that people have scrolled away when they've gotten a chance, you know, and
then it ends up there ends up being a capitalist underbelly, you know, using
the resources of the, that whole situation.
And to me, it's like, if you want to have a little socialist or communist
alcove inside of a capitalist system.
So like, if I wanted to make a neighborhood and make it communist and,
or socialist, like even like a city, you can do that within capitalism.
It's more, capitalism is more free.
Like, yeah, if y'all want to do that amongst yourselves, go for it.
Um, but you are going to need help from the outside at some point and you got to
give us, you know, something of use for, for our resources.
So, yeah, it's, it's, it's all, it's all, it's very neat that there's so many
different systems and everybody argues about which one's better and which ones,
but I don't think any of them, some of them are better objectively, but I don't
think any of them are so bad, like of the, of the, like, so let's just say
socialism and capitalism among those two, if they're done right, if they're
implemented correctly, they can coexist.
Yeah.
Um, it's just,
also, these aren't even ways to run.
These are like economical economy systems.
Yeah.
Economical.
There's different ways to run a government as well.
Oh yeah.
But that's a whole, that's a whole of this.
I gotta do some reading on that.
I know everything.
I'm an expert.
I'm an expert on, on government systems.
I was very interested in this part.
I know a ton about the American government and how democracy, that's what I'm least
familiar with is that that's Republic.
Yes.
We are a Republic, a Democratic Republic.
Yes.
Republic is important.
Yes.
Do you know the difference between a democracy and a Republic?
Um,
our founding fathers were very, very anti-democracy.
Yes.
Why?
Because, uh, uh, there's people in the government and they, uh,
two boxes and a sheep shouldn't be able to vote on what's for dinner.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, kind of.
Yeah.
Because now the sheep is going to have some issues because he's outvoted.
Um, a direct democracy wouldn't work because it's mob rule.
And you can literally just, you get 51% of people to agree on something and you
can do anything regardless of how immoral it is and how just un-inhuman it is.
Democracy is a rule of the people either directly or through elected
representatives in our public is a government where the country is
considered a public matter, not a private concern for the rulers.
Right.
That's what I, that's what came up when I looked up and when you're, when
you're a Republic and you've got a constitution, you've got rights and
you're not given the rights by the constitution.
The constitution guarantees that the government can't take your rights from you.
Or they can take your rights from you, but they're going to be punished for doing so
because it's not like they physically can't take your rights.
Oh my gosh.
Like, like in your, in your driver's class with that stupid,
talk about that for a second.
When you like, it's like, can you turn left when this happens?
Oh my gosh.
We were talking about the line on the middle of the road, right?
Or lines.
It doesn't matter.
Um, so the main guy teaching class, right?
He was like, okay.
If you have two lines, what they're both yellow, which I don't know why they'd be
different and they're yellow.
And one of them is broken, broken ones on your side.
And then the straight one is on the other side.
What if, uh, what do you do?
What can you do in this situation?
And I'm not looking for, you can pass.
Like what, what?
That's the answer.
Why are you, what?
And no one got the answer right.
Right?
So he thought we were all dumb.
You know what the answer was?
What was the answer?
It's legal to pass.
I'm going to cry.
Legal.
Why am I here?
Get me out of this class.
So please let me leave.
It was the, it was the, um, like the, can you pass when this is happening?
Yes, you can pass.
It's not legal and it's dangerous, but you can.
It was so, well, that's one of the things when I used to teach concealed carry
classes, I had to teach the legal portion.
You know, I had, uh, four hours teaching the laws of, of North Carolina about,
uh, you know, what, what's legal.
Right.
And almost every class I'd have somebody be like, you know, can I do this?
And I'm like, well, yeah, you can do whatever you want, but it's not legal to do that.
This is a legal class.
Um, and some of the things that I'm saying in this class, I don't believe,
or I won't follow if this situation comes up, I go to jail.
I'll get to charge for that.
You know?
Um, but I was, I was tasked with teaching.
Yes.
It's a very, it's a jerky thing to do.
Right.
Um, so
never going to find this spot.
Of course you can do it, but it's not legal.
You're a driver's ed teacher out there.
I hope you're chill.
I know.
I know you don't have to be.
Please be.
I should look into being a driver's ed teacher.
It looks like good money.
No, I don't care.
People are mean.
Work a couple of days every six months.
True.
That's, that's the beauty of it.
That's the life.
Couple of days every six months and you're set for the year.
You should look into doing private lessons.
Do you know how much people pay for private lessons?
That is actually not a bad idea.
It's really not because I can private lessons.
I know a girl in my, Oh, that was a weird pop.
That hurt.
I probably didn't hear it.
There's a girl in my class that's private lessons.
Do you know how much she paid for her?
Just her learning portion thousand bucks.
Well, not that much.
I have no idea.
Lila $600.
That's a thousand bucks.
Anything over 500, a thousand.
Well, technically because 400 for private driving portion.
Yeah.
So a thousand bucks.
A thousand bucks for one person.
Wow.
For one person.
Wow.
Of course, to be fair, they do have to have a ridiculous amount of insurance.
Yeah.
To do that because you're taking an unlicensed driver in a vehicle.
So you have to have, I want to say a minimum of a million dollars.
But they also have that for the state vehicles that, well, I guess.
Right.
But the tax, my tax dollars pay for that.
Oh my gosh.
They do.
I'm not lying.
It's a bright yellow vehicle.
We have to drive in.
What we drove in just a regular white Ford.
No, it was a really old cars Chevy Malibu.
And we don't learn stick.
Um, and, but it was modified.
So the passenger side had a brake pedal.
Oh, uh, uh, not like, Oh wait.
Well, no, I don't like that.
It was, it was necessary because the girl that was, cause we drove in teams.
Oh, wait.
So the girl that was in the back seat when I was driving, when she was driving,
the guy had to hit the brakes like three times to keep us from hitting stuff.
That makes sense.
That makes more sense.
I was, I wasn't thinking about the whole picture.
Right.
That makes more sense.
You're silly.
I'm sure.
But yeah.
Um, the Lila is going to be driving soon.
Uh, you're on the roads.
Stay on the road.
They'll be fine.
You'll be fine.
She's, she's, she'll be good.
She's very cautious.
Um, I'm going to be scared the entire time I'm driving.
Yeah, you'll be fine.
You'll be fine.
Uh, what else did we have about isms racism?
You want to talk about that?
No, that's not a topic we're going to talk about.
Um, so I'm trying to think of anything else and then it's not, it's not.
Um, I was trying to think of anything else under capitalism.
Oh, minimum wage.
What should minimum wage be?
Oh, yo, I think it's fine.
Well, seven 25 an hour.
You're cool with that.
No, no.
What should it be?
No, it's probably not.
I don't know because no matter how far up the money, they can print money.
Well, this is the, this is the thing about it.
The more money is in circulation, the more people are going to pay for stuff.
Wow.
Okay.
You're, you're not even 15 and you already understand that better than.
Wait, do I?
The better.
Yeah.
That's, that's the thing.
The more you print, the more stuff costs.
Yeah.
That's just how it's less.
Yes.
Um, so
you can, what minimum wage, right?
Yeah.
Minimum wage in North Carolina is seven 25 an hour.
Yeah.
Nowhere pays minimum wage.
Oh yeah.
No, no, no, no.
Well, there's a couple of places, but I'm sure that there is a couple of
places that payment wage.
However, it's more meant to be a side job.
Yeah.
Minimum wage is the minimum.
Like that's what it's meant to be the minimum.
But to me, I don't think there should be a minimum.
No, no.
Because you're telling me, I'm not going to be a minimum wage.
You're telling me that like, let's say that, let's say that there's a, a kid,
like a, like a 17 year old kid, he's in high school.
He doesn't want to get a job.
He doesn't want to sign the papers and put his social and get in the
system and all that stuff, right?
Um, he wants to help me clean up the store that he likes hanging out in.
Right.
He always comes and grabs a candy bar after school and a soda.
And he's like, Hey man, you know, can I make a few bucks?
Can I work for you?
I'm like, well, I don't really have the money to pay you because with the
government says you got to pay this much on top of the seven 25 an hour, I've got
to give them to do something that I could do myself fairly easily.
Um, I have to pay payroll tax on that.
I have to pay insurance.
I have to, there's all these other costs that go along with hiring somebody.
Right.
And then you're also taking on liabilities because if that kid
tries to do a lawsuit against me because he says I did something inappropriate
with them, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
So like there's a lot to go, to go along with hiring somebody.
And if that kid's like, Hey, yeah, just, just give me five bucks.
Every time I come in, I'll, I'll sweep the floors and, uh, and you know,
wipe down the counters and stuff.
Just give me five bucks an hour.
That's fine.
That works for me.
They can't do that.
It's illegal.
Two people, but why is the above?
Why?
Two, two people should be able to come to an agreement together and nobody's
getting hurt. They're both willingly entering into a contract.
Why, why should the government be able to say, no, you can't do that.
That's not a good enough contract.
Government do take a pinch, don't she?
What is it from raising Arizona?
Heck yeah.
The government, you take a pinch.
Don't you watch that movie.
We watched that.
We watched raising Arizona about a year ago.
And Lila like 30 times during that movie looked over at either me or Phaedra and
was like, that's where you got that quote.
Cause we quote that movie at least once a week.
One of the two of us.
I love raising Arizona.
It's so good.
Great movie.
The Cohen brothers movies.
And then we watched the Hudsucker proxy.
Yes.
And there's so many quotables in that too.
But yeah, I don't agree with minimum wage even being a thing.
I can kind of understand that.
It comes down to the people getting taken advantage of sort of thing.
But I think society in general is getting a little more savvy about things.
So like people are understanding, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to work for
seven 25 an hour, like all the fast food places used to be minimum wage jobs.
Now none of them pay less than 10 bucks an hour, which is, you know, 30% above
minimum wage.
So it, the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the
situation takes care of itself because of supply and demand.
If there's the workers are like, no, I'm not going to work for that.
Then you either have to raise, raise the wages that you're hiring people at,
or you shut down.
That's, I mean, that's your, your options, which also means that you have to raise
your prices and that all feeds into the printing money thing.
It's everything's interconnected and it's all rigged against you.
Everything's connected.
If you haven't listened to this song, uh, redesign your logo by lemon demon.
Do that.
That's a good song.
It's a really good song.
You should find a YouTube link and put it in the show notes.
Oh, I should.
I'll do that right now.
All right.
I think we're going to wrap it up.
Everybody.
Um, I was trying to think of anything else that I needed to say.
The song real hard to think.
And I can't technically about the Pepsi logo.
I could go on for days about Pepsi logo.
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I should.
I should do a Pepsi logo.
Many people get, oh, I should do that for my other presentation.
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Yes.
You know, you could easily record your presentation before you do it, you
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I could.
Release my presentation as it's something that gets some boost.
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Yeah.
And I mean, honestly can record an episode on your phone.
Yeah.
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