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hey everybody it's my birthday it's his birthday happy birthday i'm old yeah we are recording this

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on my birthday 43 43 years young yeah still still kicking along i still have a few hairs

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on top of my head only just a couple i counted you probably count them to be honest

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not uh not on impossible like it would be for you um yeah but yeah feeling good had a good

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birthday went out and had some pizza at my favorite pizza place and um got some cool presents

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but welcome to argument pod we're a uh a podcast we are actually we're pretty much the only podcast

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still around yeah everyone else is either yeah just gone yeah just gone not even either just gone

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yeah it's been what it's been like two weeks since our last episode sorry about that we've

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had a lot going on it was uh my wife and i's 21st wedding anniversary last week so uh we had had

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a whole week of and we have had our weekends full doing anniversary stuff yeah and um we went my

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wife and i went to fancy restaurant out in winston-salem and um went to a place called

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mckay's out there it's like a used bookstore electronics it's like a thrift store but it's

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like focused on media and um electronics and stuff like that so had a really good time and um yeah now

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we're back now we're back into the show and i've been working on some tech stuff i'll get into that

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in a little a little bit but yeah we'd like to uh thank or welcome all of our new listeners

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what listening numbers have been picking up i've been looking at it on our statistics there and we got a

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shout out on curry and the keeper and planet rage yeah by csb thanks csb you're the best uh check

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them out i believe it's csb.lol i might uh might be wrong on that csb.lol and uh yep comic comic

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strip blog.com is where that redirects um some of his comics are a little a little a little

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we're not a kid show anymore i don't have why are you saying it's got some funny stuff and uh

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i've noticed me like not saying what i want to say because i'm like oh yeah we're we're doing the

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show the show is for kids right so i need to like not no more not specifically um we totally we don't

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want to be like over the top or anything um but yeah this is a uh we're gonna we're gonna try and

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start getting more like on a weekly release schedule but we've had a lot with Leila's band

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and a lot going on but we're getting back into it and it's becoming more of a routine now that i have

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these these apps that help me make the pro the show afterwards i'm gonna talk about that a little bit

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what you know how easy it's gonna be when we don't have the friday or when we have the friday

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night football games but we don't have a show that's in around friday right

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gonna be yeah yeah um but yeah so our show this week is going to be about how you know as you can

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probably tell from the title the internet was a mistake i don't think we should title it that

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no no i think we should just title it the internet the internet yeah because i saw it and i was like

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that's right this is my my thesis is that the internet was a mistake and of course that we're

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but we're gonna discuss the nuance of that i don't believe it is no it's not but it's a fun

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thing to say because you see some stuff and you're like oh wow this whole this whole experiment was

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oh my gosh why don't you put a space at the end of things what oh okay wow okay i just noticed that

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in the outline yeah where you wrote out what we were doing uh-huh you put intro enter you didn't put

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intro space enter yeah i never put spaces at the end of lines bad formatting if you're in in certain

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programming languages if you have a space there it wrecks everything all right if you have a space or a

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comma in the wrong spot it can wreck everything but uh yeah we're a value for value podcast and we like

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we like to thank the people who support us right off the bat um i am going to be getting in touch with

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i wanted to say this out loud so i remember to do it i'm going to be getting in touch with brian

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sir brian with an i to uh talk about some help he said he wanted to help us out with some stuff

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and i'm excited to work with him yeah for some uh creative juice you know um and that is a way that

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you can you can help us out if you enjoy the show you get some value from it return that value

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value however you see fit you can return that value uh with your time by helping us out with

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things or just listening or telling folks about us your talent which is what sir brian with an i is

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going to do he's going to help us out with some music stuff uh or your treasure and the treasure

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helps us pay for server costs helps us uh run out to pizza inn and get some delicious pizza on my

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birthday um you know how it keeps us going and we have received some value in the form of treasure

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from some folks since our last episode isms do you want to take take those from the top or let's go

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from the bottom all right so we've got fountain there you go kevin hallisey one two three four sats

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with no message no message next one is one two three four sats from dreb scott that's like the count

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uh boost the little draculas i get it uh that's like the fastest i've ever gotten a joke wow yay you guys

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are feeling better woohoo we are feeling better yeah and uh feeling feeling pretty good um

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let me get a test boost yep which is like one two three four yep again which i've got anybody out

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there wanting to test anything our show is the perfect test show so if you want to just send sats

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to test something send them on um you can use uh these apps fountain fountain apps uh or fountain apps

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uh podcast apps we got fountain.fm is one a lot of people use to send boosts and um if you have any

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questions about that shoot us a message we'll get you rolling and then we have 10 000 sats

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whoa from dreb scott and uh it's for the last episode it says another great episode thank you

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very much we try we try next one podcast guru one three two one from randy black episode four really

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piqued my optimism i did there oh how awesome this podcast is going to continue to be go podcasting

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all right the go pot where did that come from go podcasting it's it's curry um i want to say i don't

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know if it was curry who shouted i think he shouted it um i don't know if it was from no agenda or from

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podcasting 2.0 there were the two hosts of no agenda no agenda is and john c devora oh okay we

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interviewed john c i know we did and you knew this you've been listening to them since you were three

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yeah i have that's crazy did they do like a birthday thing for me yeah you've you've been mentioned on

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that show quite a few times that's crazy and i probably don't even know half of them right uh one seven

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1776 sets from just listening saying let's go on the trailer episode yep because we i finally took

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the trailer for this show and put it on the fun fact friday uh feed as the last item just so when

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people go to that feed they get sent here so yeah they realize oh that show's over there's a new show

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and then the last boost is um the do it yourself episode episode two i'm back oh this is from just

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listening seven seven seven sets i'm back and so are you guys glad to hear you two again uh if you

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want to be beige be beige and that is in reference to the missus we're not telling you to not be beige

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i just don't like it i can i can perfectly not like something nothing nothing wrong with being beige

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it has been a rough start to the episode but uh it has we bet we've been we haven't been in two weeks

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we have out of practice and i'm stressed yeah you got a big big day tomorrow big test type thing

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tomorrow yeah um but you'll do you'll do fine it's a music test and you've got some music we have to

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travel for a music test yeah they gotta go to a different county i guess the judges or the people

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to run the test are just like lazy and they don't want to travel around all the schools yeah now i get

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it um so wait we're not done i didn't have i don't have it on here because it's in my cash app

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should have been more prepared uh twenty dollars wow and it says isms but each of the s's is a dollar

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sign great conversation we appreciate that and then i got a and uh happy birthday david an extra

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five dollars and then there was another five dollars with no note uh i did get a message from

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wanted one of them returned i have no issues with that if any ever but he ever sends us twice in a

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row do not feel bad about it or accidentally send it to another show right we've had we've had

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donations that were meant to be sent to another show and we just gave it right back and i was like

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on with what we're doing uh let us know yeah we'll uh take it under consideration we're reasonable

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but yes thank you so much kevin we definitely appreciate that so much that really helps us out

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with uh these costs and of getting another i just bought some more computer hardware to

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work on the home home services things that i'm doing and they're for the show and that definitely

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helps out to buy that new processor i just bought yeah tax write-off yeah yes it is a tax

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because that that computer that i put that in is only being used for this so yeah um yeah so i just

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got to keep keep the receipt for that thank you so much thank you everybody value for value we love

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you yeah so dad what how has the internet affected your life how has the internet affected my life

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with an a wow um it hasn't no it oh really i got the internet my first brush with the internet was in

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1996 i remember specifically it was the summer of 96 because it was during the summer olympics

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uh aol which is a company that used to be around i think they still have some stuff going but

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america online we had finally gotten the internet through them you had to pay by the minute

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every minute that you were on the internet you had to pay it was extremely slow and it took up your

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entire phone line so you couldn't talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time

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so we got the internet and i immediately went to the chat rooms to talk to the people in the olympic

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chat rooms which was really neat that was that's cool it was so cool and chat rooms were the thing

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back then and we uh you know i learned went from there and i learned how to write web pages by i i found

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the view page source button and started looking at the page source for other websites and i learned how

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how the little html tags worked and i started messing with all that and then i don't know it just turned

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into go going from there i guess you would say i've pretty much had a website or two up ever since 96 97

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and uh the internet's been a i mean a huge part of my life ever since as most people but and you would

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have never known never known what that internet has been a big part of your life right as we distribute

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this on the internet you'd have never known and receive internet money

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so what about what about oh okay so affecting my life now obviously we distribute the show on the

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internet i play games with like my brother we play games together on the internet sometimes um

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all of our entertainment comes from the internet now a lot of it's hosted at home talk about that later

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um but yeah so i mean it brings me all of my information all of my entertainment uh all of

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my communication what what all of your communication 98 99 of it yeah i wouldn't go that far what what do

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you think what communication other than in person do you talk to people online 99 of the day

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or 90 well no i'm not talking about you're communicating except for in-person conversations

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so where's the one percent going text messages that aren't through the rcs system that are on sms

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that's not the internet uh what sms is not the internet what is it it's a it's a whole protocol but

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that's probably internet now because the sms is probably relayed through the internet my phone's

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probably 50 50 people that use sms and people that use rcs right but anyway the vast vast majority

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of my communications are through the internet yeah so yeah so there you go um the internet has affected

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my life by one growing up in the vicinity of it and just learning to do stuff on it at a very young age

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you know but also my like how do i explain it i don't know i didn't know where you were going with

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that i was going to ask you social media but i don't have social media you you do it's just not

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what people typically think of when they think of social media you get on you get on that one or two

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of your games and they have voice chat and you chat with people and or use the chat rooms that's

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social media it just has a wrapper of a video game around it and i use a couple like youtube and

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pinterest right right social media you're not like using those as to post things or you you're just

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consuming entertainment and information essentially but i mean you're not the average bear you're not the

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average 15 year old you know yeah but it has it's affected my mind definitely in pop culture

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references i have a friend that we literally almost all the time only talk in pop culture references and

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we understand the sentences between each other it's really funny well what's crazy now about the internet

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versus like say when i was a little younger than you because well i got the internet when i was your age

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so like imagine you not even knowing about anything having to do with online world until your age

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if you had never been around before so like pop culture used to be different for me because

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there was like three or four channels that everybody got over the air on tv right so chances are most people

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were watching the same tv shows almost everybody who watched tv watched the same shows so that was your

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pop culture uh when movies came out like you would see the trailers for the movies you wouldn't really

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see them on tv that much you go to the movie theater and like you just hear about word of mouth

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yeah this movie was coming out or you just call the movie theater and say hey what's this movie about

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you know um we didn't see a whole lot of movie trailers um but then when a big movie came out like

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that's what everybody talked about but now everything is so splintered and fractured on the internet

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i mean you've got all of your streaming services putting out movies you've got actual movies that

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come out in the theater other ones are actual movies too you don't mean like movies that come out

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those real movies theatrical releases you've got tv shows you've got tv shows on streaming

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that uh you've got youtube which is just literally anybody can start a channel you've got podcasts for

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the audio listeners and video podcasts i guess um so you've got all of these different things it's

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it's interesting because there's there's the the main pop culture which is normally pushed by disney

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because they pretty much own it now um and then there's sub pop culture and those kind of kind of

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intersect like you're going to have a lot of mix between rpg gamers and anime fans

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uh you're going to have a lot of mix between you know cosplayers and like makers you know people

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that make 3d printing stuff and and you've got all these subcultures and they they intermingle and

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intermix but you can have two people going to the same school in the same small town who like consume

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none of the same media but both of them are actually consuming popular media you know what i mean

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yeah there there was a lot more cohesion in the what people liked back in my day and i wonder how much

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more control the large companies and you know even like the government if they were involved in any of

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that how much more control they had over people back then by pushing certain messages even stuff like

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the um but even now that's kind of getting more pop more and more popular like with them with the

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newest mark rover mark rober video i keep calling him mark rover because he worked on the mars rover

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i'm start calling him mars rover he posted a video his last video that he posted like two or three days

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ago now right he i didn't watch the video you did and you explained it to me so i'm kind of regurgitating

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what you're saying but so you want me to run through what happened yeah yeah yeah okay so basically

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he made a video about he had a tesla and then he had this car with a lidar instead of the cameras

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because teslas use cameras to determine what's around them and lidar is so cool yeah it really is

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i played a simulation of it and then there was um a vehicle that had lidar and he was like showing

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the difference between how lidar works and how the cameras work and which one was better at like

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stopping if there was a child in the road so he had like this little dummy kid you know like a mannequin

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not just a kid who was dumb um he had a mannequin in the street and he'd like run the the auto

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driving cars up to it and they would stop but like depending on if it was raining or you know he had

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a bunch of different variables in there and basically he was like sponsored by big lidar yeah

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yeah a lidar company he's uh was paying him so everyone kind of lost trust i believe he had stock in

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the company and there was a whole the whole thing i don't know the exact details but basically it just

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he didn't disclose and he's been caught in this before where he didn't disclose that he was being

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paid uh by these companies to talk about their products um and i'm not like i said i'm not 100%

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on all this so all this is you know let's say allegedly i don't know yeah i don't know that

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the exact details of his deal with the lidar people but apparently a lot of people were very upset with

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them and that's one of the things that like our show i feel like we've kind of built a little bit

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of a rapport and some trust with our listeners however if we went bad and decided to shill for

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somebody and sell their stuff but we did it in a smart way it would it would hurt worse than if we

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just did straight out didn't add yeah you know because if i know someone's sponsored by something

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i'm like oh okay so they'll have a bias towards this or this they're getting paid to do this

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because if like someone is sponsored by mio like the the water drops i know they're not gonna

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live like the next video be drinking like crystal light and like being like yo i got some crystal

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light here you know right and then there's people like uh bandrew bandrew scott he has the

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uh show podcastage on youtube where he reviews microphones and whatnot and he's been on our

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previous show yeah he he was on uh fun fact friday uh he is extremely um he's very careful

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about never he'll take free stuff from companies but like he always says you know i received this

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for free uh i wasn't paid for an opinion he's turned down i don't know what that popping is me neither

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happened a few times maybe we need to get it sounds like your mic line conditioner talking

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yeah maybe you're having an issue um you know well we'll see what happens we'll see if y'all can hear it

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tell us about it and sorry um but he's a very a stand-up guy and he's very very upfront about if

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he receives any kind of compensation as you know products or i don't think he does like sponsored

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segments or anything um and one of his shows is actually his bandrew says podcast is actually value

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for value and it's on youtube he turned off all monetization on youtube uh because he wanted to go

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value for value and um i trust him yeah but i've also talked to him like a lot not in person because

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you know i hung out with him in person but a lot of you know off air not in the comments you know

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private conversations i just trust him when it comes to reviewing stuff there's some youtubers and

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podcasters that i don't trust any of their reviews i watch their stuff just simply to see like like i'm

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looking at computer stuff okay what how much ram does this have what's the maximum capacity because

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that's all stuff i could go read that's nice when somebody tells it to you yeah but i don't trust

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their their their bias on things even if you just get it for free and you're not getting paid to say

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good things about it just getting it for free you're kind of stoked about it you're like oh i want

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to keep sending me free stuff i might i might say something real nice about them sorry sorry i'm

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clicking a flashlight no it's not the clicking it's the light oh that i have a very good peripheral

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vision i can see you right now yeah yeah that's funny um but when when somebody breaks your trust

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and they feel like they're your friend because they're in your ear once a week and then they break

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your trust it hurts worse than if it's you know up front the company is sponsoring this like most tv

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shows back in the day especially existed because of ads you know they were called soap operas because

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the soap companies paid for them to be made what you didn't know that no i just thought they were

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called that for a silly silly name for silly name no the soap companies can't have meanings i don't know

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what companies it was back then but like the soap company paid for the entire episode of the soap opera

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wow and oh my god every time anybody was using soap in the show or talking about cleaning things

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it was like the truman show you remember the truman show when like she holds up the product and says

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would you like some i haven't watched the truman show yet what no i've suggested it like three times

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during movie night and you're always like i could have swore you said you watched it with your nana

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no huh wish i had i really want to see it okay well watch it then i love that thank you um i just

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wanted to watch something that we i thought you hadn't seen anyway anywho that that part of the

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internet the the loss of credibility for people like you you're you're more skeptical of people

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because you don't know up front what their intentions are we are very clear we don't do ads we're not

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shilling for any products ever um that being said that's this show yeah if some company said hey

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we're going to create a commercial we'd like y'all to star in it that's just us taking a job yeah you

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know um there's no we're not putting any creativity into it it's just we're being a personality

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we're being actors right but i do watch like youtubers that have been sponsored

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buy things or have gotten promotion promotional items from shops like sir space man one of the

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cosplay youtubers that i you whoa youtubers that i watch she has like a serger and like three sewing

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machines the companies have sent to her for her to promote and she has like affiliate links

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but that doesn't make me not like my singer sewing machine any less you know um but yeah there's

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you just have to i feel like if we wanted to tell you about a product and somebody like somebody

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sent us a product for free we would definitely tell you we got it for free we try not to let that

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affect our opinion of this thing but um they wanted our opinion on it so there is a really good sewing

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machine that she has though that's pretty cheap i'll tell you about it but start you an amazon wishlist

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your birthday's next week it is um okay so one of the other questions we had here okay how do you and

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your friends use the internet okay so i of course talk to them over like what do you call it text

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yeah any instant messages instant messages uh i sometimes send them pinterest pens

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but like we me and my friends have different ways of using the internet because i have a lot of friends

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that use like instagram snapchat crap like that and they they can do that but they use it a lot more for

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um like chatting with other people staying in touch drama you know stuff like that right but the internet

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for me like in comparison i binge watch crap i listen to stuff i do it's terrible what kind of stuff do

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you binge watch um the game grumps so it's game grumps is essentially a podcast right yeah pretty much

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honestly i listen to people talking chess while i was hanging up a tapestry in my room earlier right like

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they're just silly guys yeah i listen to podcasts a lot and that's one of the things like

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i feel like with our listeners you get to know the people and you almost feel like you're hanging out

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with them yeah and you're just being quiet i listen to podcasts when i'm cleaning or doing chores that

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are mindless and i do um i haven't last couple weeks i'm really behind on my podcast i've been

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listening to audiobooks because i've got a bunch of audiobooks i gotta catch up on um but yeah i've seen

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you been i've seen you working on something with your hands like crafting something but you've got some

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youtube channel on and it's just somebody talking into the camera so it might as well be an audio

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podcast yeah but um i've seen you you do that and a couple of them are right right i've just recently

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started watching or listening to podcasts even though we've had like a podcast for so long i was like

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podcasts aren't aren't that great as you start as i star in a podcast that i've been starring in

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thousands of listeners yeah almost five years now yeah that's right that's crazy i was 10 when

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this started about 15 in a week yep i think i'm gonna get my permit five years yep you'll be on the

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road um watch out so you're talking about listening podcast huh yes i i was uh i listened to like a

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couple different ones no promotion on this show to any other podcast get him out of here we should just

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go back and bleep out every other mention oh my gosh bleep out the bandrew part to bleep out

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curry and the keeper keep them keep them um but yeah so other than listening just listening to

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things watching tv also music music is a huge part of my life i don't know if you could tell yeah you

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do enjoy the music and thing i like about what you do though is you you you're not only on the current

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music yeah you actually span back decades um so i like that that you actually brought your horizons a

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little bit every single genre like i've noticed not me i've noticed that a lot of people are like

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i like every genre except for like country or i like every genre except for except for rap you know

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i appreciate every genre for what it is and i appreciate the good music and the bad music in it you know

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like i've started listening to more country and more rap because i want to broaden my horizons a

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little bit because i've been kind of standoffish against those two specifically right but i've

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realized hey this isn't that bad there's some very specific sub genres that i just can't listen to

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certain times of types of techno um there's there's some ones that i just can't i can't handle yeah

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and that's fine generic pop like i'm trying to think of who who i can even sabrina carpenter

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yeah exactly stuff like that um i don't feel how it it feels very manufactured yeah which i agree

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there's a lot of manufactured music that doesn't quite sound manufactured but it is what it is it

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doesn't mean i won't jam out to sabrina carpenter once in a while i don't like taylor swift's whole

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apparatus going on but a couple of her songs i enjoy listening to yeah if it comes on i'm not switching it

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you know yeah i also really enjoy all of the culture around music and just the lyricism the

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artistry i i could talk about music for days do you like keeping up with the artists and what they're

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doing with their lives and who they're dating and all of that or do you just like as much as i say i

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i don't you do um i know all of the charlie xcx lore from when she was like like born to now oh my

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gosh because i'm making a presentation about it oh yeah i forgot about that i don't really keep up

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with like their dating lives and like where they are because i don't care celebrity gossip i can't i

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yeah it i i believe in the the concept of uh the death of the artist are you familiar with that

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well i've heard of death of the author but that was a willwood thing well yeah that's death of the

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author it's the same thing yeah same so i really and you know say what you want about me i like green

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day i do not like reading anything about green day hearing anything about their their politics

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or their anything because i just want to listen to the music yeah um there's a lot of people that

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hate on jk rowling for some things that she said but they are conflicted because they love this harry

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potter and the whole lore and the universe and the nostalgia of it and so they're torn between that

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because they don't want to enrich somebody they don't like politically but at the same time they

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love the creation so they hate the creator and love the creation oh yeah um so i can i can separate

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it in my brain i can separate it a lot too to a point yeah to a point but some of the artists i

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listen to are not role models like at all like if i could and they shouldn't be no absolutely not like

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will would that is not a role model of a person right but he makes some really good music and i

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would love i would love love love to go see one of his shows one day very few people that a lot of

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people know their names that are good role models absolutely very few things that mr rogers ever did

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in public were controversial in any way it was generally a positive for the world um steve erwin

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same way and bob ross same way that i know of like i said there may be they may have said or done

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something terrible i don't know about it you know but there's very few people out there that i would

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consider a role model everything i've heard about keanu reeves is that he'd be a good role model

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but yeah you don't know everything about him you know there's people can hide things i mean he's

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breathtaking no you're breathtaking love that stupid video

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oh wow there was an old martin short you knew martin short is

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he's a comedian comedian back in the day he did a stand-up special

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and somebody in the whole group of people in the audience were like when he had was taking a sip of

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water or whatever they were like we love you martin and as soon as they said it he just pulled

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the the bottle away from his mouth he's like and i love you back oh my gosh he was so fast with it

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it's like he was waiting for somebody to do that uh wouldn't surprise me if it was a plant but uh

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and i love you back i hate stand-up comedians i'm sorry oh no i get it i get it i like some some of

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them are so funny but right and i would love to go see a comedy show i just right i get it i know

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exactly what you're saying like you you want to watch them because sometimes they're funny but

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just the whole idea of it um so death of creativity and personal style oh yeah okay so i saw a video

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i'll try and remember to link it in the show notes like just like you're gonna link that mark robinson

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video um basically if you look back at the 50s the 60s the 70s 80s 90s if you saw somebody dressed

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in a certain way you would know which of those decades they were coming from yeah like they all

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of those decades had a very distinct style but after like 2000 the style when there's like everything

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looks the same like you we're you can watch the office any episode of the office and it's

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indistinguishable from what year it was made and that spanned like 10 years yeah so like i think

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that was a choice though in the office well in the office i mean they're all wearing suits and you know

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but they're hairstyles yeah and they're and like the whole look of everything nothing's really changed

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style wise but i think that's because everything is a mashup of everything that's happened before yeah

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but i also feel like there is i've noticed a style change it's subtle though and it's not

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although i have like studied the style change right you have studied style and all that stuff but what i

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mean is it's not so drastic if you look at some like people dressed up in 50s outfits and the way

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houses were made in the 50s you can walk into a house that was made in the 70s

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and say oh wow this has a whole 70s vibe yeah there was also so much fighting back then and

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there was so many movements you know and there's not really that much of that anymore because like

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women started wearing pants and there was the whole pants craze and that's when everything started

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going downhill apparently apparently did you hear they're letting women drive cars now

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do you hear that they're putting pockets in women clothing what do they have to carry around

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their secrets that's genuinely why they didn't want women having pockets so they could put secrets

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in their pocket like no it's not yes it is watch the style theory video oh it's theory style theory

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yes i want to see evidence of this um no pockets make things make fabric sit funny

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and a long long time ago your pockets were separate from your dress yeah and that was so cool

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you had like pockets on underneath your clothes you like reach inside your clothes and put stuff in

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your pockets um but it's still like a big deal when you get pockets in your pants oh i hear it all

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the time it's got pockets these pockets on these stupid pants look at what look at this i'm looking

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half of a hand no i know into this pocket right here it's because if the whole pocket was there

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there'd be like lines what do you see that you could see the pockets yeah i don't care i want

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to be able to fit my whole phone in my pocket Leila yes what if i told you that you are very good at

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sewing and you have a sewing machine it's not that's not the point fabric that's not the point you

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shouldn't have to alter the i shouldn't have to alter my clothes well i'll tell you what as soon as

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women stop buying pants with no pockets they'll stop making them you go on strike that's what

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capitalism does for you yeah supply and demand but uh with the personal style i am a victim of this too

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i have been on the internet my entire life well entire but i have never really had my own personal

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style and i'm trying to find that now because i've realized everyone not everyone most people get their

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style from the internet with what's popular or what's not popular or what's like in the alternative

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scene at the moment you know so since the beginning of time no since people had options on what to wear

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there's been style there's been keeping up with the person whoever was viewed as the coolest

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which for a while there was like you know royalty right people would emulate royalty

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um that's why uh oh who is it i can't remember the style i was i gotta get that guy we can get that

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guy on as a guest where we went to a tour down in wilmington of this old old old old house and he was

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talking about how styles changed weekly back in like the 1700s 1800s in america and among the upper

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class people and it was so specific it was like you go to a dinner party and you know how the forks and

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knives were supposed to be laid out yeah the style for that week would be that the the middle most fork

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would be flipped upside down and if you went to a party and they did not have that fork flipped that way

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they were on the outs on the cool scale oh my gosh there's a season unfortunate events book about

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this or with this as a side plot i want to get i want to get the guy who was doing that tour on the

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show i've got his card um because i want to talk to him about that and basically they would have memes

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i mean it was you know wasn't drawing like they would have things like they would hold their hand a

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certain way while speaking and if they didn't everybody knew that they weren't cool and it was

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like that specific yeah so that kind of thing has always been around and then when you talk about

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styles all of them coming from the internet that's where everybody gets their information and their

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entertainment and everything now so where else would it come from you know yeah um back in the day

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it was the people on tv if you saw the guys on hawaii 50 wearing something they were the coolest

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guys on tv so everybody was wearing hawaiian shirts for a little while and like miami vice and michael

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jackson and people look to whoever's the coolest and now people have like i was talking about the

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different subcultures on the internet everybody thinks that different people are the coolest so

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fashion has splintered so widely because people are trying to emulate the people that they find cool

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then you have all of these like sub genres of style so there's not one cohesive society-wide style

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like there was in like the 80s you look at the 80s everybody dressed the same yeah you know i mean

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not everybody there was your business people they all dressed like the business people from the 80s there

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was your cool guys they all dressed like cool guys there was your you know there was different scenes

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but it was like maybe four different type styles but you can always tell an 80s style versus a 90s

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style you know um yeah what's going on are you taking your mic apart

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we got so muted myself so you could talk about something other than me fixing my mic

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i was like talk okay people love hearing about technical issues as long as it doesn't go on

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for like five minutes trying to come out oh okay i gotcha wasn't snapped in i was gonna talk about that

378
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that's probably my fault i was gonna talk about the um the book series of unfortunate events yeah

379
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ursat's elevator that's those name of the book in like a 13 book series where uh what's her name

380
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esme squalor she's like this real not she's really popular celebrity i guess you could call her but she's

381
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like the person in town and she

382
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is told what's out and in and she is immediately changing everything it's really funny so like in 1984

383
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yeah so she'll like read the paper and be like curtains are out and she'll like

384
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rip the curtains down so that happens in 1984 oh yeah there's a there's a part where

385
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um europa which is there's britannia and you're oh wow it's been too long i've forgotten the names

386
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there's there's multiple nation states there's multiple regions right and they're always at war

387
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or peace with one or the other so like yeah it's really bugging me i can't remember the names of them

388
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but um britannia is at war with east asia right and east asia is the enemy so there's all this

389
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propaganda posters anti-east asia propaganda posters everywhere right well one day big brother

390
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decides that we're not at war with east asia we're at war with europa we've always been at war

391
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with europa we've never been at war with east asia they're our allies so this gets announced

392
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and people immediately they're in the streets screaming about how much they hate east asia

393
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and immediately as soon as they hear that big brother said we've never been at war with east

394
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asia they're our allies they immediately who put up this propaganda that we're at war with east asia

395
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and they go start tearing down the posters saying that our enemies from eurasia have put up these

396
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propaganda posters to try and trick us to thinking that we're at war against east asia and it was like

397
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an immediate flip the switch thing and i've seen this happen in american politics too where people

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are screaming one thing but then as soon as something happens and the messaging changes they're

399
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:14,100
screaming the exact opposite and pretending they never screamed the first thing yeah and it's amazing

400
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to me it blows my mind but that sounds very similar to that and i think there's something in alice in

401
00:43:18,260 --> 00:43:22,620
wonderland too right where she wants to paint all the things red yeah like it's immediate but then

402
00:43:22,620 --> 00:43:30,060
she's like i didn't tell you to paint those red yeah mind games but what i was saying about

403
00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:35,280
personal style before you right went off on your tangent because i was trying to butt in you just

404
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talking uh but i've found that style on the internet is not style in real life but it also kind of is

405
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because so many people rely on the internet and so many people go to the internet for what's popular

406
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:53,540
i gotta get what's popular i gotta get the lululemon shorts but uh is that a pyramid scheme

407
00:43:53,540 --> 00:43:59,580
uh probably wait no it's not it's just stores oh okay but i couldn't there was a there was a pyramid

408
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scheme similar to that yeah uh you just gotta be you man if you want to look to the internet for that

409
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:14,760
sure go right ahead but also look to yourself for what you want to wear and what is you you have to

410
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:22,200
be the you you are that's that's a severance reference um but here's the thing though

411
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:29,160
what if you don't you don't have that creative streak to feel a certain way the thing is you do

412
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i feel like everyone has creativity they just don't know how to harness it

413
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:39,700
yeah and people don't vary to varying levels but then there's also like like me right let's take this

414
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for example what do i typically wear t-shirt and jeans exactly every day do you think that i'm just

415
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like oh you know what these people t-shirt and jeans they wear that they look cool you know no i wear

416
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jeans because i like the way they feel like you how often do you see me wearing shorts of any kind

417
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:04,460
even like around the house like once in like two months right it's hot because it's too hot or like

418
00:45:04,460 --> 00:45:11,040
all my jeans are in the wash yeah or it's a pajama day pajama don't have exactly um i like the way that

419
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:20,120
it feels when i have jeans on so i do that i will wear whatever shirt is clean and fits yeah so

420
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typically like if i see one with a fun design oh yeah cool i'll grab that it does it fit yes and it'll

421
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be clean no problem yeah i don't like you know and i guess i'm just kind of being like cynical

422
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:43,520
because i'm i'm very focused on personal style and perception of other like myself in other people's

423
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:49,380
eyes yeah you want to you want to know if you think it's cool you might think that other people might

424
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think that you're cool for wearing it yeah hey that looks cool you know i want people to look at me

425
00:45:55,860 --> 00:46:03,820
and see me for me you know you're trying to i think a lot of people do this you're trying to

426
00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:11,560
take something and show the world this is the thing that i like i like this aesthetic and a lot of the

427
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,020
things that go along with this aesthetic yeah because if you're wearing like a flowy pair of like

428
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the thin pants with the funky designs on them it shows that you're a little carefree yeah i wear those

429
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:27,040
once in a while they're cool right like hippie clothes kind of put off a certain vibe that

430
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:32,120
everybody instantly gets what's that someone asked me if i was a hippie the other day yeah i was like

431
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:37,620
sure whatever you perceive me as man i wear deodorant and shave my armpits i'm not hippie

432
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:44,440
um and that's the thing some when somebody's wearing certain clothes people will assume certain things

433
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:51,780
about you if you were all goth stuff some people are just going to avoid you because the last goth

434
00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:57,920
that they dealt with was super cringy goth person or their parents are like goth people are bad

435
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:04,280
exactly yeah you can get dungeons and dragons that's the devil satanic panic of the 80s i remember i remember

436
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:11,960
it um i love saying that what dungeons and dragons that's the devil that's the devil it does have some

437
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:17,380
some devilish stuff in it but it's all fantasy it's a it's a and yeah it's the thing is it's a

438
00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:21,180
dragons is what you make of it it's a battle system and you can make all of the bad guys

439
00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:29,240
yeah it's a method um but no when i say dnd i'm thinking i'm talking about like all of the tabletop

440
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:33,560
rpgs i just kind of shorthanded as dnd because people know what you're talking about i need to start a

441
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,980
campaign yeah we should we should start a um tabletop rpg it doesn't even have to be dnd

442
00:47:37,980 --> 00:47:44,420
we can come up with our own little dice system i did it did it before um i have my little group i

443
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:52,940
want to start it with cool let's get it get it rolling yeah let's get it rolling so um you were

444
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you also wanted to talk about the monetization of media yeah we touched on it earlier okay that's

445
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that's good okay so the thing i don't like about the internet and i'm not being super cynical trying

446
00:48:05,140 --> 00:48:09,380
to be super cynical or negative about everything but one of the things i don't like is when it comes

447
00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:15,940
to like the monetization like so i'm really into free and open source software i'm into self-hosting

448
00:48:15,940 --> 00:48:22,840
things and this is where it's going to get nerdy so if you're not into computer stuff networking stuff

449
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,860
all that you can bail out now have a great week we'll see you next time

450
00:48:27,860 --> 00:48:33,520
okay only the nerds are left let's let's get into this if you have any questions Leila

451
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like anything just uh throw another so here's what i've been doing i'm trying to get everything

452
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working on our network and i'm watching a lot of these youtube channels about like self-hosting

453
00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:52,900
your own media servers and things like that well i've got plex up and running for our our media

454
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:58,420
so that's where we can we can have our tv shows movies things like that and then we can also have

455
00:48:58,420 --> 00:49:03,580
our music and uh there's some cool apps that go along with that plex is a company i'm sorry

456
00:49:03,580 --> 00:49:10,600
uh plex is a company you don't like plex amp no i hate it i've never used it i like the app on the

457
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,780
phone but i don't like how it acts on the on the in the car i just use youtube music and youtube music's

458
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:23,580
fine i mean we pay for it so um but with plex amp or plex it's a company and there's another one

459
00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:30,660
called jellyfin which is all open source but it requires a lot more setup uh plex is really nice

460
00:49:30,660 --> 00:49:36,020
because you have your sign in and you don't have to like open up ports on your router to allow traffic

461
00:49:36,020 --> 00:49:42,140
to come in and out so you can access it outside the home um if you set it to that's yeah if you set

462
00:49:42,140 --> 00:49:47,620
it to do that but with jellyfin you have to do all that stuff with you know a reverse proxy and all

463
00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:53,560
that but there's no company out there that's being a middleman and you know can see what's in your

464
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,120
library and stuff like that we only have all legitimate media in our library of course of course

465
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:05,660
um and then on top of the media server i've got what's called a pie hole i've got two of them oh

466
00:50:05,660 --> 00:50:13,100
they're amazing the pie hole is a whole network ad blocker and how does that work that works by

467
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:19,340
not allowing traffic from certain sources and there's these huge lists that you can download

468
00:50:19,340 --> 00:50:27,160
of all of the sources of ads so the the way that it works though is that the ad comes in

469
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:34,280
and pie hole stops it from getting to your device so the server that's serving the ad thinks that

470
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:39,000
we're watching the ad you can also block websites yeah you can also block i mean you can do that on

471
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,920
your router too but you can block any domain uh you can block regions of the world you can also do

472
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:52,340
your local dns which is really nice because if i want to type in Leila's computer instead of the ip

473
00:50:52,340 --> 00:50:58,740
address of her computer to log in and do some remote stuff i can set that there and have have it to

474
00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:04,260
where i don't have to remember all these ip addresses or have a list i can just type in um you know

475
00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:09,480
minecraft server and press enter and i can get into the minecraft server that's really nice and

476
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:15,220
that runs through the pie hole too well i've got two pie holes in case one fails and they both sync

477
00:51:15,220 --> 00:51:21,320
up once a day so if i make any changes on one it goes to the other um and that's on two separate

478
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,700
devices i've got this thing called it's an orange pie it's like a raspberry pi computer but it's smaller

479
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:31,540
and cheaper and faster um and harder and better and stronger yeah and faster um so i've got a couple of

480
00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:37,780
those running but what i'm doing is i've taken my pc which is like my main server which is the one

481
00:51:37,780 --> 00:51:44,000
that we do the podcast post processing and the video creation and the um show notes and chapters

482
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:51,120
and all that on and i've taken the two orange pies which were on usb power and i've taken the usb

483
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:56,220
headers the little pins on the motherboard that you can extend out to have extra usb ports on the

484
00:51:56,220 --> 00:52:01,420
outside of the case but i've just put them inside the case so i've got the two i've got the orange

485
00:52:01,420 --> 00:52:12,140
pies mounted inside the computer case and then i 3d printed a keystone jack uh pcie slot or you know

486
00:52:12,140 --> 00:52:16,740
the the slot on the back of the computer that would have you know video card ports or ethernet ports

487
00:52:16,740 --> 00:52:21,840
whatever if there's a card there but it just has pass-throughs for ethernet so i can plug an ethernet

488
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,940
cable into each side of it so the little computers inside the big computer can have ethernet

489
00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:37,620
like in in the movie we watched as computers in my computer um so then i also have what's called a kvm

490
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:44,860
it's a pi kvm it's a pi hole what does it stand for uh pi kvm is keyboard video mouse

491
00:52:44,860 --> 00:52:56,220
i believe oh yeah keyboard video mouse so basically it lets me control a computer remotely as if i were

492
00:52:56,220 --> 00:53:04,220
sitting at it it has a usb that goes into the usb of the computer an ethernet cable that goes into the

493
00:53:04,220 --> 00:53:11,540
ethernet or into the kvm port so i can remotely virtually press the power button of the computer

494
00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:19,400
so the computer can be completely off but i can send a signal that the computer receives as me

495
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,100
physically pushing the button which means i can get into the bios of the computer remotely

496
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:32,540
and it's really cool so i've got that in there and i've got the motherboard of the main pc set up to

497
00:53:32,540 --> 00:53:39,220
where the power to the usb ports is always on and i'm going to set up to where i can power off and on

498
00:53:39,220 --> 00:53:44,580
the mini computers inside the main computer remotely still working on that whole process

499
00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:52,300
but on top of all that physical stuff i've got my video game servers and then i'm using what's called

500
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:58,420
proxmox and you've seen me use proxmox it's where you can have virtual computers inside of your main

501
00:53:58,420 --> 00:54:06,060
computer yeah so like if you've got a quad core processor i can have four one core computers loaded up

502
00:54:06,060 --> 00:54:10,840
all with different different operating systems different ip addresses everything so it's as if

503
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:20,420
i have four computers and didn't you even use a proxmox that was linux and you have a windows

504
00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:25,740
yeah yeah you can uh you can set up any operating system on the fake computers that you want

505
00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:32,760
and just log into them remotely and it's just a whole it's a whole fake computer and you can just

506
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:40,540
roll it up delete it turn it on turn it off it's it's really neat but i'm running uh heimdall which is

507
00:54:40,540 --> 00:54:46,500
a a dashboard program that has all of your local services on it and oh my gosh let me see what what

508
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:54,060
do we have running here what do we have here um i've got an ai whisper program for the audio

509
00:54:54,060 --> 00:55:00,580
transcription of this show that you're listening to right now um i've got audio bookshelf which

510
00:55:00,580 --> 00:55:07,420
has all of our audio books that we've purchased legally from audible we have used our drm key

511
00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:16,260
to rip them to be able to play on audio bookshelf because we legally own them um but i want to be able

512
00:55:16,260 --> 00:55:21,820
to listen to them in audio bookshelf and not just on the audible app so i removed the drm from them which

513
00:55:21,820 --> 00:55:28,520
may or may not be i mean i bought them so i've got them they're mine um a license in perpetuity

514
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:34,100
we have the umbral which is how we get our bitcoin stuff uh what else do we have on here

515
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:37,500
plex piehole yeah i think i've kind of gone through most of the stuff we have

516
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:45,480
um it's really neat i'm hoping to put together an episode just about this and do like a really deep

517
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:51,920
dive into it to get anybody up to speed if anybody wants to go through any of this stuff with me

518
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:58,660
how i would like to do tutorial videos is me to actually help someone set it up because i feel

519
00:55:58,660 --> 00:56:06,660
like that's how i speak the best is when i'm teaching so may may go through and do that um

520
00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:16,000
yeah audio bookshelf for our books um plex for our tv shows and movies and music and then um

521
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,620
oh my gosh what my home room teacher didn't know what digital media was the other day

522
00:56:20,620 --> 00:56:24,440
didn't know what she didn't know what digital media was

523
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:31,280
but i mean when somebody told her like nobody else did nobody else knew either except for me

524
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,800
does nobody just call it that or no nobody calls it that apparently we had a lesson on

525
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:45,540
safety with safety on digital media and um like digital media addictions and like

526
00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:52,860
my home room teacher was like yeah i don't know if they just meant like social media but i don't know

527
00:56:52,860 --> 00:56:58,000
what digital media is so i mean it's pretty self-explanatory digital you know what media is

528
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,620
it's media that's digital you know what media is that's what i said i don't think my home room

529
00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:09,060
teacher likes me very much and i kind of see why that's okay it's okay let's not talk about too

530
00:57:09,060 --> 00:57:14,520
much about school she made sausage balls oh my gosh were they good yes oh i had some sausage and

531
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,860
peppers at the uh pizza place tonight it was really good yeah all right i think uh i think that's it if

532
00:57:19,860 --> 00:57:23,780
anybody wants to hear more about the network stuff i'm doing some really neat stuff i have been taking a

533
00:57:23,780 --> 00:57:32,000
lot of pictures so i have some visuals um hopefully i'll put them in the chapters and um wow it's it's

534
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,720
getting it's getting nerdy in here oh we'll just put it like that

535
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:45,200
everybody have a fantastic week uh we'll be getting on a a more frequent release schedule here pretty soon

536
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:51,720
hopefully hopefully and uh i think i think that's about that's about it right yeah we'll see y'all next time

537
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everybody have a good one next one will be Leila's birthday yeah bye

